{"id":78699,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/78699/?format=json","text_counter":425,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Kenyatta","speaker_title":"The Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Finance","speaker":{"id":168,"legal_name":"Uhuru Muigai Kenyatta","slug":"uhuru-kenyatta"},"content":" Madam Temporary Deputy Chairlady, this is not actually punitive because it is between Kshs1 million and Kshs10 million. When you take a company, for example Shell, Kenya Breweries or Safaricom and you penalize them with Kshs1 million, what incentive is there? I mean, Kshs1 million to them is nothing; it is pocket change! So, this is why we need it to raise it, to make sure that---"}