{"id":791122,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/791122/?format=json","text_counter":352,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kuria","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":13160,"legal_name":"Moses Kuria","slug":"moses-kuria"},"content":"Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I want to fully support the remarks by Hon. Cecily Mbarire not only on the issue of chair but also on the issue of management. I will pronounce myself on Clause 12 later. This practice of ring-fencing certain job for certain professions is outdated. Even within Government and our own administrative framework called the Mwongozo framework, we are moving away from this habit of ring-fencing. Dr. Nyikal is a medical doctor and he knows very well that even for an institution like Kenyatta National Hospital (KNH), one of the best managers we had, Dr. Lesiyampe was not even a doctor. We have seen medical doctors mess an institution like KNH. You do not have to be an engineer to be a chair or a CEO. Some of the institutions that are facing problems are the ones that are run by people from the same profession. I would call it professional incest."}