{"id":806305,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/806305/?format=json","text_counter":45,"type":"other","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Trust me, Sen. Haji, these are very few people who are making illegal profits. In the last Senate, a statement was sought about counterfeit Samsung phones. From that Statement, we asked the then Chief Justice, Willy Mutunga, to set up a counterfeits court like happens all over the world. These sugar barons just like the NYS scandal culprits will be taken to court. They will be slapped with a Kshs10,000 fee which they can pay by MPESA service or come with cheque books. Mr. Speaker, Sir, in developed countries, you cannot make a profit in this manner. In law we call it usurious profit. It is made from illegality. Tougher action needs to be taken at the counterfeits court and make sure that person migrate to another country. If we could exile Miguna for doing nothing, we should exile sugar barons and send them to a country that has no name. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir."}