{"id":837597,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/837597/?format=json","text_counter":228,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Bondo, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. Gideon Ochanda","speaker":{"id":1264,"legal_name":"Gideon Ochanda Ogolla","slug":"gideon-ochanda-ogolla"},"content":"which have developed into big towns. They are much bigger than the public lands that were initially demarcated for markets. Many of the makutanos are on private lands. Compare managing a private land in relation to a public land. When they were clearly marked as markets, planning was easy and provision for roads was clearly indicated. But, how do you do this on a private land that has all of a sudden ballooned in terms of population and now has 2,000 people, and qualifies as a market or has more people and now qualifies to be a town?"}