{"id":856617,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/856617/?format=json","text_counter":1511,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Ruaraka, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. T.J. Kajwang’","speaker":{"id":2712,"legal_name":"Tom Joseph Kajwang'","slug":"kajwang-tom-joseph-francis"},"content":" This is what we need to legislate. It is unlawful for them to do this. If you have a letter of interim authority, until you get a charter, you cannot award degrees and postgraduate degrees."}