{"id":856634,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/856634/?format=json","text_counter":1528,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Ikolomani, JP","speaker_title":"Hon. Bernanrd Shinali","speaker":{"id":1598,"legal_name":"Benard Masaka Shinali","slug":"benard-masaka-shinali"},"content":" Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah is my chair but I have experience. When you have an interim authority that means you have not satisfied the authorities to run a university. You are running it under certain supervision until you are mature to get a charter then you can offer the degrees."}