{"id":902384,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/902384/?format=json","text_counter":209,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Sakaja","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":13131,"legal_name":"Johnson Arthur Sakaja","slug":"johnson-arthur-sakaja"},"content":"Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, there is something fundamentally wrong. I think certain Ministers came in and saw that for them to be popular, they must be tough. So, ―Let us all be tough such as this one---‖ No, no, no! You are not dealing with children in this country. We have Houses of reason. Kenyans are sensible people. When Kenyans were told: ―Let us ban polythene bags because of this,‖ they stopped in a day. Therefore, do not threaten Kenyans; reason with them."}