{"id":938463,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/938463/?format=json","text_counter":361,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Christopher Omulele","speaker_title":"The Temporary Deputy Speaker","speaker":{"id":2145,"legal_name":"Christopher Omulele","slug":"christopher-omulele"},"content":" Hon. Chris Wamalwa, you are quite on point. The Member for Tharaka-Nithi, we have not borrowed Kshs9 trillion. We only raised the ceiling to a possibility that we may allow the Government to borrow up to that level, but we have not borrowed. Honestly, I do not think we are going to borrow money to pay pensions. I think he is quite on point that we have not borrowed to that level."}