{"id":976849,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/976849/?format=json","text_counter":283,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. (Dr.) Kabaka","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":13206,"legal_name":"Boniface Mutinda Kabaka","slug":"boniface-mutinda-kabaka-2"},"content":"Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. It is not my intention to interfere with my sister, Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve. However, it should be clear that a public servant taking a loan does not, of necessity, mean that he or she is clean and cannot service the loan even using the ill-gotten loot. It is very possible. People actually take loans to camouflage their loot and then later use corruption proceeds to service the loan. It is not a cure, as such. That is my opinion."}