{"id":981899,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/981899/?format=json","text_counter":300,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"The Deputy Speaker","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Order, Sen. (Dr.) Langat; I thought that you gave up your right of audience. Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, on the intellectual exchange you have had – although informal – with your student, Sen. Murkomen, I think he was right. This is because there was a learner in class one those early years who was 84 years old or thereabouts; he was not small! Is it not? When free education was declared, there was a fellow who went either to pre-primary or to class one at the age of 84 years, and I am sure he was not small. Was he?"}