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"content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I am trying to say that it is for the good of the country and this House that this matter is dispensed with. It is a minor matter. Hon. Ojode is trying to tell the House that an appeal was not done, and yet it was done. Could he commit himself to reinstate this officer and the matter ends there? It is a simple matter!"
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"content": "On a point of order, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker. Is it in order for the hon. Member to impute improper motive on the Committee by alleging that the Assistant Minister colluded with the Committee? I am a Member of that Committee and I never discussed anything with the Assistant Minister. Could he substantiate or withdraw his remarks?"
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"content": " That is why I said that he is treading on very dangerous grounds if he cannot substantiate."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, the hon. Member did not hear what I said. I said that there is a situation where a Minister can collude. I did not say that he did collude."
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"content": "No! No!"
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"content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, if that is what the House heard, then I may apologise and withdraw the remark."
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"content": " Hon. Members, that matter now rests. Mr. Assistant Minister, do you have the last word on this before I give directions?"
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"content": " Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I was just suggesting that Parliament does not reinstate people. This is a disciplined force and we do not just dismiss officers for the sake of it. You know the police force---"
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"content": "On a point of order, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker. This Assistant Minister cannot get away with this because last time, the Chair directed that this matter does not go to the Committee since the appeal had been done procedurally. The Chair directed that this Question should appear for the last time and this Assistant Minister must come with an answer. Now he wants it to be referred to the Committee which the Speaker at the time thought it was not necessary. The Assistant Minister must stop his theatrics and give this House an answer as a matter of right and not privilege."
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"content": "On a point of order, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker. Hon. Ojode understands this issue just as a Question from his earlier statement. This is about accountability on fair administration action which is provided for in the Constitution. Is he in order to take this matter very lightly? It is not just about a Question but about instant accountability."
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