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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I agree with the Leader of the Minority Party; that, it is good for us to conduct ourselves with decorum and allow each other to be heard. As he rightly said, today you may be here celebrating and next time you will be on the other side crying, like he is doing today. Nine months ago, he used to sit where Hon. John Mbadi is seated because he liked that corner. He would be cheering as Hon. John Mbadi celebrated very major atrocities against Kenyans. I cannot stand here to celebrate atrocities against anybody or travesties on the justice of the people of Kenya. As Hon. Opiyo Wandayi has said, Parliament is an open place to the members of the public. However, we live in a civilised democracy and in parliaments all over the world, there are picketing corners. In the Parliament of the Kenya, members of the public are allowed in the Public Gallery and with the Speaker’s permission to the Speaker’s Gallery to watch and follow the proceedings of the House. In an endeavour to have an open Parliament for the welfare of society and the just Government of the people, our debates are televised live by the Parliamentary Broadcasting Unit (PBU). This is to ensure that Kenyans, wherever they are, even from the comfort of their homes can follow debate. This does not mean that we live in an island. I think on Thursday or yesterday, the Speaker reminded us about our own safety within the precincts of Parliament and mostly in this Chamber. He reminded us about bombing of Parliaments around the world in Beirut, Lebanon and most recently, in Burkina Faso, where mobs took over Parliament and burnt it. We have seen what those who associate with Opiyo Wandayi, the Leader of the Minority Party, believe to be peaceful protests and demonstrations. Therefore, if the police, in their wisdom, feel it is insecure to allow people who purport to be picketers or peaceful demonstrators around the precincts of Parliament to protect Hon. Opiyo Wandayi, Hon. Mwenje, Hon. Owen Baya and others it is within their right to exclude anybody who they feel is a threat to our national security and security of Members of Parliament, including Hon. Opiyo Wandayi, who must at all times be protected. That is why the Government of Kenya, through the Inspector-General of Police, has provided a minimum of 14 bodyguards for him as the Leader of the Minority Party. Hon. John Mbadi may be unaware that the Leader of the Minority Party is entitled to 14 bodyguards to even guard his residences in the village, Nairobi and elsewhere."
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"content": "The police want to ensure that the Leader of Minority Party, the Leader of Majority Party, each and every Member of Parliament and the staff working in this House are protected. Therefore, we should not think that anyone is excluding people from following the proceedings of the House when the police do their work. I want to speak to those being mobilised because I have engaged a number of intelligence officers who are in, outside and around this House. I can hear Members asking, “By who?” I do not know what is itching them. People have been mobilised to intimidate Members of Parliament to ensure that they did not carry out their constitutional mandate yesterday afternoon, and that they do not do so even today and tomorrow. I want to ask the Inspector-General, if anybody wants to picket around Parliament, they should notify the police when and why. I am sure somewhere around Kenyatta International Convention Centre (KICC), there is some space designated as a picketing corner. Your right to picket and demonstrate ends where mine of carrying out my constitutional work as a Member of Parliament begins. Nobody should attempt to stop any Member of Parliament from coming The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "here to do their work, however you feel about the Finance Bill or any other business. You may as well protest in the constituencies or anywhere else but do so peacefully and in line with the provisions of the Public Order Act. I do not think there is any sinister move in excluding people who the Inspector-General of Police feels are a threat to the security of Members of Parliament. Above anything else, as the substantive Speaker said yesterday, our own safety here is paramount. That is why he was pleading with us to allow the Serjeant-at-Arms to conduct body searches on each one of us. I allowed the Serjeant-at-Arms to carry out a body search on me. I was hoping he would name the Member who threatened to strip because a Serjeant-at-Arms officer asked for permission to search her. As the Speaker said yesterday, we must be careful so that we do not lose anyone because of a bombing or somebody walking in with a gun. I remember in the last Parliament, there was an incident where a Member who was seated behind me was said to have carried a gun into the Chamber. The issues we are raising are not hot air."
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"content": "Hon. Speaker, you need to protect Hon. Babu Owino. He has never carried a gun into the Chamber but elsewhere. You need to ensure that him and Kimani Ichung’wah do not walk in with guns, grenades or anything else. I beg that we allow our security agencies to secure us. I want to tell Kenyans and the world that Parliament, and by extension the National Assembly of Kenya, is an open place for people. Kenyans are free to picket and air their views. Yesterday, I said that the Finance Bill is the only Bill that has had the most robust public participation in the last 15 years. This morning, I was listening to a vernacular radio station called Kameme FM. I heard a former Member of County Assembly (MCA), who was a cleaner in my county. He used to be a sweeper and was fortunately elected as MCA. He was pretending to be a finance expert in that talk show, saying all manner of fake things. Since we know the owners of Kameme FM are part of the propaganda machinery against the Finance Bill, we allow them. I also want to assure the people of Kenya even as they picket and express their views; as I said during the Second Reading debate, a lot of misinformation, lies and propaganda, including that on Kameme FM, that what you are being told, is not true. Nobody will die or get hurt because this Finance Bill has passed. I want to ask Hon. Robert Mbui this afternoon to be ready to vote for those progressive clauses in the Bill that he thinks will be beneficial to the people of Kathiani. With regard to those that you think are not beneficial, I urge you to bring amendments and not to play to the gallery. Hon. Deputy Speaker, let me end there because we have very important business ahead of us. I do not think this was a matter for debate. I just wanted to respond to my good friend, Hon. Opiyo Wandayi, and assure him that he is secure and safe. However, as much as you are safe, please do not organise anybody to stop me or other Members of Kenya Kwanza or Azimio from coming to the House to work. Members must not be intimidated by people who support this Bill from coming here to oppose it on the Floor of the House. Hon. Babu Owino should have the freedom to come and oppose this Bill on the Floor of the House. I know those who are not in the House, like my friend, Hon. John Mbadi, get very excited because he needs to be seen to be opposing this Bill. Those who never voted for the Second Reading in Azimio need to be seen and heard to be opposing this Bill. You have seen the kind of letters they are getting from the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM). The ODM, as a political party, must stop intimidating its members."
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"content": "(Several Members spoke off record)"
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Order, Members! I will give a chance for response to Hon. Nabii Nabwera. You have the microphone."
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