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"content": " Okay, finish."
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"content": "Thank you very much. Basically, what I am trying to say is this."
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"content": " If you think the community will not be assisted when you are the Chair of the Committee, you will have a problem."
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"content": "I will try my best, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir."
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"content": " Conclude, Sen. Chute."
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"content": "Let me conclude. In conclusion, there are two groups of people who are marginalised in Kenya; that is, the Elmolos and the Dassanech. My request to the Government is to empower these two groups of people. If possible, they can be given the position of a Nominated Member of Parliament. It will be very good for us. Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir Speaker. You have cut me short, but thank you very much."
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"content": " Those are the recommendations you would expect from your Committee. So do not preempt what you are going to do. Sen. Olekina Ledama?"
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would like to comment on three Statements. I will begin with the Statement by the Senator of Meru County. The issue of the National Hospital Insurance Fund (NHIF) is something which is going to be the biggest cancer in this society. Many Kenyans are trooping into hospitals with their NHIF card, having paid the NHIF contributions, but they are sent back home without being given services. As of June last year, NHIF owed hospitals; both private and public hospitals, about Kshs20 billion. Out of the Kshs20 billion, Kshs11.1 billion was released by the National Treasury to pay the NHIF, so that they can further pay the capitations or refund the capitation to the hospitals. Four days ago, the Cabinet Secretary of Health stated that the National Treasury had released an additional Kshs1billion to pay these hospitals. We all know that this House and the National Assembly passed a new SHIF Fund Act, which essentially means that we are now winding up the services of NHIF. Yesterday, when we were doing our oversight in Nairobi City County, the Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of Mbagathi Hospital lamented and complained heavily that they are now being crippled by NHIF because it is not paying these hospitals. This reminds me that when citizens pay their contribution, it is deducted, but when they go to the hospital, they do not get services. Our courts have already spoken on this matter. Last year, there was a citizen who the court ruled that he should be refunded all his NHIF contributions. This is a very serious matter. We are now going to face one of the biggest crisis in this country because as we speak right now, all Kenyans who are The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "trooping into public hospitals and private hospitals, are being sent back home if they go with their NHIF card. So it begs the question, that we are all so eager to pass a new Health Act or SHIF Fund, which is supposed to pay for medical services for these Kenyans. What will happen to these hospitals, which are supposed to provide services, when you now go into the hospital with a new card of SHIF and that hospital is owed over a billion by NHIF? This is a crisis. I know that you brought up this Statement, but this is one of those things that we say we should convert it into an inquiry because it only means that either our county governments are not remitting the deductions to NHIF or once the money gets there, it is diverted to other things. This is a very serious crisis and all of us seated here should be very worried about the outcomes. The second Statement that I would like to comment briefly on is the issue of fake fertilisers. This is very interesting. A couple of days ago, I saw packets of supposedly unga, or flour, being disposed off in Naivasha. However, it was part of the fake fertiliser. People were being asked now to eat that fake fertiliser. There was an expose of a factory along the Nakuru, on the Highway that was putting soil into bags, sealing them fertiliser. Is this a country that we live in? A country that has institutions including the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC), the National Intelligence Service (NIS) and the Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI). What exactly are we telling our Kenyans? We, as legislators, must now act and this is what it calls for us to convert even this House into a full House Committee to investigate these matters. Everyone is complaining. Life is difficult, yet you are still selling them fake fertilisers. What exactly are we telling Kenyans? That we are a man-eat-man society? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the last Statement that I want to comment on is the brought by Sen. Kavindu Muthama. This is a very important Statement. All the 47 elected Senators ought to pay attention to that Statement. We have pending bills amounting to Kshs156 billion. These pending bills, which are over Kshs156 billion, did not start yesterday. Some of them go back to 2013. The most important thing the Committee should do is to call for the registry to provide CR12 for every single company doing business with counties. You will find that in a county like mine of Narok, one family owns all the businesses. Is that wise? We are accumulating all these pending bills. Once a contractor has completed their work, the Controller of Budget (CoB) is requested to remit money, but once the money gets into the county government, it is diverted to pay for other services not rendered. This is a very serious matter. I would like to request all 47 elected Senators to follow the footsteps of Sen. Kavindu Muthama and demand for budgets and CR12 for all companies that are doing business with their county. You will be surprised. You will see that all the money is going into one pocket. This is a shame."
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"content": " Hon. Members, my screen is full, but we need to move out of this. It is now four minutes to the end of the Statement Hour. I want to allow two Senators from this side and one from the other side. Let us have Sen. Tabitha Mutinda. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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