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"content": "The Bible says in Proverbs - I do not know the specific verse - your children will inherit the wealth that you have created out of hard work, toil and sweat, but the ill-gotten one, will be eaten by moths, rodents and termites. I know the Bishop concurs with me on that. I agree with the definition of conflict of interest."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, can you kindly protect me from the ladies."
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"content": " The two Tabithas, I do not know why they are arguing."
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"content": " The two Tabithas, what is the issue with both of you?"
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"content": "Coincidentally, they are smiling around the Senate Majority Leader. I do not know if it is because Easter Holiday is near. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I will just make four points. When you look at leadership and integrity, it talks about conflict of interest. What we are doing is just to enrich it. This is because, the architect and design of the Constitution is just to give us the structure. As a Parliament, we pass legislation to now enrich the Constitution. The fight against corruption can only be won if we have the right legislative interventions and policies in place. One of them is the conflict-of-interest. We do not want people using their offices to enrich themselves and also give influence. This conflict of interest is even outside the public Government offices. We have “sexually transmitted grades” in universities and institutions of higher learning, sexually transmitted job opportunities and many others. When you go to some of the universities, our young women and men are suffering from a disease that is perpetuated within the set up of public and private institutions of higher learning called, “sexually transmitted grades”. These are some of the conflicts of interests. Somebody who is higher up has undue influence against a person within that organization. People should know that they do not need to be in an office to enrich themselves unfairly. On the issue of conflict of interest; I would like proper elaboration at the amendment stage. However, I know that when the Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights (JLAHR) Committee will table a report, we should also look at it, so that we see their definition of conflict of interest. It should not only focus on the public. It should look at even somebody who is a chief, a lecturer or a pastor. There was a pastor who was taking undue advantage in a video that went viral. He said, he was chasing some spirits in some areas that I cannot mention because this is a Parental Guidance event. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the issue of unexplained assets is important. I know there is wealth declaration that we usually do as public officers, but we want these issues to be taken seriously. Someone cannot tell us today that they are worth a million, but after staying in an office, two to three years down the line, they are a dollar billionaire. As a"
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"content": "country, we must take these issues seriously. Every wealth, even if you buy a watch, a car or property, no matter the worth, as a public official, you must tell us. In this country, we are aware of people who use their offices to enrich themselves. We cannot gerrymander in the fight against corruption. The Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) has been given a function, but I have little faith in it. I have sat in the County Public Accounts Committee (CPAC). Sen. Ledama and a number of colleagues have sat there as well. We have made many recommendations for bodies like the EACC to follow up and prosecute governors or county officials who continue to pilferage our resources. I am aware that EACC might be struggling with capacity on issues of resource allocation, but they have never shown proof of what they have done. In our last report when I was the Chairperson at the Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights Committee (JLAC), the only conviction the EACC had achieved in that year when they tabled their report was convicting someone who had taken a bribe of Kshs20,000, somewhere in Eldoret and it caused a huge uproar on the Floor of the House. The fight of any elections--- sorry, not elections because they are still far. The fight against corruption, larceny, graft and plundering of natural resources can be won. I remember there was a gentleman who told us at that time that he was not going for small fish or omena, but big fish. He ended up with nothing on the plate. That was very unfortunate. With the enriching of this Bill that has been fronted by the Senate Majority Leader, Sen. Aaron Cheruiyot, then it should be supported by all and sundry, so that we fight corruption in this country. I, therefore, challenge the EACC because I have seen the Motion by Sen. Ledama Olekina on pending bills. How can pending bills be there and when you go to the National Treasury, money has been disbursed? It means that it has been stolen. What is the EACC doing about it? Nothing! When they are reported, they go and call the governors or anyone who has been accused of corruption and see them hapo"
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