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"content": ". Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we are aware of even the Controller of Budget (CoB). I would like them to come clean. When a county makes a requisition, the office of the CoB asks them what they want to do and they give a schedule. They then release monies to the counties after paying a certain percentage. We have allegations that some CoB staff own houses in Karen, Runda and Kileleshwa, even in Dubai where they have private summer homes. This is because they are colluding with county governments to release money that is made under requisition. Some of the officers and not the Controller of Budget, are going rogue. That is why governors are misusing and plundering resources. What is the EACC doing about it? Nothing. Yesterday, I saw them releasing a report that said that Nyamira leads in bribery and which county and ministry leads in bribery or corruption allegations. However, after releasing a report, what next? The EACC has never told the country what they are doing in the fight against corruption, yet under the Constitution, they have an obligation to fight corruption in this country. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we have many laws like the Anti-Corruption and Economic Crimes Act and many laws in the fight against corruption. The chicken must"
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "come home to roost when EACC will tell us what they are doing in Machakos, Kitui, Makueni and Nandi in the fight against corruption. Last time I said that Nandi is the headquarters of corruption. There is a lot of plundering happening, but EACC has done nothing. We have reported on a number of occasions, but what the EACC does is to smile at the camera with the governors and officials and then they say, the matter is under investigation. I also challenge the Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI) and the office of the Director of Public Prosecutions, that we must show seriousness. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the other day, we visited a number of counties and I know we will be visiting Meru soon. When we go there, people will ask us what the Senate has done now that money has been stolen. Our work is to make recommendations. The people to implement are the EACC and DCI. However, what are they doing? There is a weak link in the fight against corruption in this republic and I hope that this Conflict of Interest Bill will assist. On the issue of powers to investigate, the EACC has enough powers. It is a creation of the Constitution. They are supposed to do their job as per the Constitution. They do not need to get anybody’s permission to do their job. Why is there a perception that people believe that EACC must get orders or phone calls? Colleague Members, the fight against corruption in counties, to be precise, will not be won as long as the biggest stumbling block in the fight against corruption is the EACC. They have never done anything. They can contravene what I have said and give us statistics on the corruption they have fought. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we remember in Siaya under the former County Government where air tickets were bought for private individuals and no one has been prosecuted in Siaya. We went to Turkana and the same thing happened, Kshs100 million could not be accounted for. There are many occasions. As we pass this, I have mixed feelings because we have enough legislation, but there is nothing to show for what the country has achieved in the fight against corruption. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I also agree with the declarations. In Standing Order No.104 on conflict of interest and avoiding obligation. The third point is on preferential treatment. That is more than obvious---"
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"content": " Sen. Cherarkey, I can see there is an intervention, meaning there is a point of order from Sen. Lemaletian Hezena. Senator, what is your point of order?"
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Sen. Cherarkey should substantiate the claims that EACC receives phone calls. Thank you."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I said ‘as if’ they are receiving phone calls. I am guided by the HANSARD if it is contrary because I said ‘as if they are receiving’. ‘As if’ is maybe. I did not say ‘shall’. That is what I meant. I thank my sister. She is doing a good job and maybe, she wants something in Samburu County in future. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, on the issue of gifts and other benefits, this law on economic crimes was there in 2003. You passed it. At least you have been around these"
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"content": "corridors and you know this law, where you are given a gift, even when we welcome you as a Speaker. When you come to my home and I give you a gift as a friend, I do not know whether you should declare because I can give you a cow. That is the highest respect my community can give. I do not know whether you will donate the cow to the Senate or what happens because you are a public official. Those are some of the issues that JLAC, through Sen. Sigei, will give us headway on as we progress. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, on complimentary treatment, we are aware that when some organisations need tenders, they sponsor them. I remember the issue of the tobacco scandal - and may the soul of Hon. Jakoyo Midiwo rest in peace – That committee was taken to Mombasa by the tobacco industry for treatment to pass a law that was not against the tobacco companies. I remember the images of Members of Parliament swimming on the beaches of Mombasa and I know Sen. Miraj understands what happens on the beaches of Mombasa. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, on the issue of prohibiting contracts with public entities, I ask Members to attend the breakfast meeting for the launch of the caucus for the Open Governance Programme (OGP) on the 16th. They will get to learn the meaning of beneficial ownership of companies, contractual obligation and the fight against corruption. The Senate has taken the lead in the Senate discourse on the Open Governance Programme. I know the Senators understand what the OGP means. We are trying to push for accountability, legislative integrity and openness, contractual obligation and beneficial ownership; being open through OGP. I thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, and your office for allowing that caucus to be established. I know that these are some of the things we have been pushed in that caucus to ensure that we have obligations. Corruption happens during procurement processes. That is where it starts from. I remember there was an American ambassador, but I forget his name who said that Kenya loses around Kshs700 billion through budgeted corruption. It was around the 2020 when that statement was made in the media. We need to be careful. I remember when we were looking through budgetary process and many others, procurement is where issues happen. On conflict of recruitment, I know whenever the Kenya Defence Force (KDF) and other people are recruiting, we hear parents complaining that they have paid Kshs300,000 or Kshs200,000 et cetra. You have seen even here in Eldoret Recruits Training School (RTS) that before reporting of the recruits, a number of young people are taken to court because they have fake KDF recruitment letters. I am happy it has been captured to protect our people who unknowingly give out Kshs100,000. I know the Bribery Act says punish the “briber” and the “bribee” - The one who gives out and the one that receives. English is a big problem but I know Members understand what I mean. Mr. Deputy Speaker, on the conflict of interest and the recruitment, allow me to say this in support of this Conflict of Interest Bill. A Government officer should be aware that the courts have ruled that any public officer is subject to open and constructive"
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