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"content": "criticism. You are aware I am in court for only representing my people, speaking out and raising serious issues. The law has ruled and senior Counsel Sen. Maanzo will agree with me, together with our junior learned friend Sen. Raphael Chimera, that any public official does not have limitation in terms of criticism. So, I find it odd and weird that if Sen. Cherarkey can be sued for speaking about roads---"
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"content": " Sen. Cherarkey, there is a point of order from Sen. Chimera."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise under Standing Order No.105. Is Sen. Cherarkey factual by stating that I am his junior in law? He was admitted the other day, I think in 2020. I have practiced law for over six years, so he is actually my junior and not what he is trying to say. Whatever he is saying is misleading the House. Can he clarify? I am actually his senior in practice, he should withdraw and apologize."
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"content": " Maybe I should request both of you to bring your certificates of admission, so that I can make the determination. If I use my eyes physically, you look junior to him but maybe not academically."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, maybe I cannot get factual on the statement of fact under Standing Order No.105, since I do not know when he was admitted. Allow me to withdraw that part called junior and call him my learned friend. However, you do not need to question the chairman emeritus of the Justice and Legal Affairs Committee (JLAC) because the fact that I am the chair emeritus of JLAC, that surpasses anything else. It means I have seen a lot in the practice and I am senior. In fact, the Law Society of Kenya (LSK) should have given me senior counsel by virtue of being a JLAC emeritus chair when this country was undergoing many challenges, including the issue of Building Bridges Initiative (BBI) which we stood tall. Finally, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, in support of this conflict of interest, let any public officer know that you cannot sue a Member of Parliament for representing his people. Personally, my suit in court is because I spoke about the roads in Nandi. I will not be intimidated and blackmailed by pedestrian civil suits against me. I will always stand to represent. The other day, we were discussing Meru and another day other counties because our business is to represent. The moment you gag MPs then we do not have necessity to be elected. This is because one of the roles of a Member of Senate is to do representation and oversight, which I am doing. I know that suit is trying to intimidate me not to oversight the work people are doing. However, we are going to come back better, bigger and with a bang. I want to assure you to take my word. With those very many remarks, I beg to support this Bill. Thank you very much."
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"content": " Before we proceed with the debate on this Bill, I want to give the chairperson of JLAC a chance to table the report on this Bill, so that Senators interested can also peruse the report from JLAC."
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