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"content": "Dr Nyikal. Hon. Members, this was an interim Statement on a Petition. After Dr Nyikal contributes, we will move to something else."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. I feel sad that in this country…"
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"content": " I feel sad that we speak without feelings when the lives of ordinary people in this country are concerned. Two days ago, a two-year old child literally died in my house having gone to hospital for two consecutive days without getting treatment. We are seeing symptoms of the problems in the health sector. We have problems with human resources. We have problems with the Kenya Medical Supplies Authority (KEMSA), which you have heard. We also have problems with financing. We are dealing with the human resources that we have. Using the word “intern” in terms of doctors is international practice. It is not just done here in Kenya, but also all over the world. What does an intern do? Interns are qualified doctors with degrees in Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery (MBChB). They have also taken the Hippocratic Oath. They are doctors."
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"content": "(Loud consultations)"
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"content": "It is like employing a bank manager and saying that they are under probation while they are being supervised by the same bank manager. Therefore, you cannot refer to medical interns as students and not pay them. An intern will see a patient, examine them, conduct the required tests, treat and review them. They will only seek advice from a consultant if they encounter a problem, which is done in every profession. If you are admitted today, nobody may see you until the next day when the ward rounds are done. Medical interns will report what was done to a patient, their condition and the plans to discharge them. For example, if they had been working in the obstetrics department for a month, they will be supervised when conducting the first one or two caesarean sections. After that, they will do the caesarean sections on their own and report what they have done to their seniors. Please, Hon. Speaker, we have time. I want to give an explanation…"
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "Order. If your time is up, it is up. I will give you one minute to finish."
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, we make a mistake when we equate a medical intern to all other interns. It is not that way worldwide. Engineering and architectural interns are not the same in all countries."
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