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"content": " Hon. Deputy Speaker, I am actually beaten. I was just trying to log in. Let me be excused, please. I do not have something to contribute at this moment."
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"content": "The Hon. Member for Vihiga County, Hon. Beatrice Adagala."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker for giving me this opportunity to also contribute on this Bill. At the outset, I support this Bill because it has come at the right time. We have several emergencies that take place in the country and especially in the counties. In my county, if there is a disaster, say, a school burns down or a gold mine collapses, people rush to the county Women Representative to look for money to settle them. In our Women Representative kitty, there is no money to go towards such disasters. There was a case in one of the wards whereby the rains caused havoc and many houses were blown away. People look at you as the County Women Representative to settle those kinds of calamities and yet we cannot afford to bear them. This can be put into consideration by the county and national Government. We could put our efforts together and have a kitty for this kind of disaster. Currently, there are floods all over and houses are being swept away. We are having it very rough as Members of Parliament, especially the Women Representatives. When houses are swept away, people are told the Women Representative can support. The county governments keep mum over the matter. It means we are not prepared as a country for this kind of disaster. This Bill may cure what is needed. I will support this with my all. We want to see something put in place, not like what we have been hearing of money being set aside for El Nino, then all you get are blame games. Measures should be put in place that once this fund has been set aside, it can be handled by a committee. If that is done, it will really assist in The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "situations such as schools getting burnt, floods that come all the time, and the wind that blows away houses. I am much affected because when this happens, they always come to the County Women Representative to take care of such incidences and yet we do not have funds for that purpose. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I support this Bill."
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"content": "Hon. Naomi Waqo, Member for Marsabit County."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for allowing me to add my voice to this very important Bill. From time to time, we should all support anything to do with disaster management when it comes to us. Establishment of the Intergovernmental Council on Disaster Risk Management is very important. This is because we get into problems especially when it rains. Right now, in some areas people have been displaced because of floods especially, where I come from. Sometimes, even winds blow off roofs of schools and houses. Most times, we are unprepared for disasters. So, the National Disaster Risk Management Bill will guide and help both at the national and county levels. We mostly lose people to various disasters like fires. They lose their homes, properties and lives. The best thing is to have this Bill in place so as to manage disasters. I support it because of the composition of the board which will be made up of qualified and well experienced people holding office. The Bill is addressing different issues like vacation of office, functions of the board and powers of the board, committees of the board and delegation by the board. This is to ensure that citizens are taken good care of all the way to the grassroots level. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I support the Bill and pray that many people will support it. So, if it is implemented, it will help Kenyans when they face disasters. Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker."
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"content": "Before we continue, I am very proud to welcome students from Little Lambs Primary School from Ainabkoi Constituency, Uasin Gishu County. You can applaud them. That is my constituency and the former school of my nephew, Brian Boss. On behalf of myself and the rest of Parliament, I welcome you to observe the proceedings. Member for Bondo, Hon. Gideon Ochanda."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. As I rise to support the Bill, there are three things we need to look at very keenly and they are disasters, emergencies and crises. We have to define or place them exactly where they belong so that we are prepared. This is because the debate we are having right now, is indicating a disaster as a crisis. Although, there are times we look at a disaster as an emergency especially, when the level of preparedness in the country is almost zero. An emergency or disaster does not follow bureaucracy. Some of the proposals we are talking about are creating bureaucratic arrangements. We are talking about a council and how to address issues of emergencies or disasters. In my view, as a nation we have to rethink of how we look at disasters. There are situations in which bureaucracy and levels of approvals needed to respond to a disaster are very unnecessary. I remember a situation that arose when some people were stuck in the lake because of hyacinth. We needed a chopper to airlift two or three people. Imagine, we were told to write to some disaster committee in Eldoret or somebody in-charge of the police for purposes of this emergency. How long does it take to write a letter to an office and have a council sit down to approve what is actually a disaster that requires a response? Generally, we have to think of this and look at the proper definition of these terms. Sometimes, we plan for emergencies yet, we do not plan for a crisis we are forewarned about like the flooding we are experiencing. We were forewarned about it so this cannot be a disaster anymore. Also, many times we are forewarned about drought and signals are sent. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "Therefore, we do not need to look at this as a disaster but in terms of how well we are prepared because signals were sent. In my view, this is not a disaster but a crisis in waiting. We have been told that floods are likely to happen because it will rain until June. What is the level of preparedness; why do we want bureaucracy to address a crisis? We have been forewarned, so we need to take care of a crisis and not a disaster. When we look at a disaster in the direction of an emergency, some of these bureaucracies are unnecessary. We need spot on reporting systems that can respond to emergencies. Some Members are taking disasters to be crises which we need to prepare for and others as emergencies. If we look at them as emergencies as a nation, we are less prepared. Emergencies do not need bureaucracy but spot on responses. Structures must be put in place for a crisis we are forewarned about and indicators clearly show it will take place. This requires a plan in terms of disaster management. Sometimes, issues of disasters require immediate low-level response. We constantly talk about the need to have a national council. How do you respond to a disaster in a village through a national council? How do you respond to small and little disasters that happen in a school or community through a national office, agency or bureaucracy? We immediately need to separate the issues of crisis from disasters and emergencies. This way, we shall establish proper infrastructure for responding to them. Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker."
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"content": "Hon. Daniel Karitho, Member for Igembe Central Constituency."
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