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"speaker_name": "Dagoretti South, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. John Kiarie",
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"content": " I thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also thank Hon. Oscar Nabulindo for stopping the business of this House, so that we discuss a matter of great national interest. We ought to start by realising the responsibilities each person and entity holds. This House has a responsibility which goes beyond becoming a lamenting one. We cannot stand here on such an important Motion to talk about the usual things we hear out there. We should be part of offering the solution. In assigning responsibility, there is no way a government will run away from the responsibility of securing the lives of its people anywhere, up to and including the roads. This is because the Constitution gives provisions for the Government to protect life and property of its citizens. Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Government develops policies, trains drivers, and conducts safety checks on drivers, roads, equipment and transport vehicles. The Government polices roads through the Ministry of Interior and National Administration. The Government The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "develops the infrastructure that fails at very critical times. Responsibilities ought to be assigned so that each person plays their rightful role in correcting the menace on our roads. Some problems are historical. Some have been caused by the lethargy of decision- makers who fear that the problem is too big and they are unable to surmount it. However, we recently saw a Minister who stood up against all odds and corrected the menace on our roads, albeit for a very short period. That should be the gold standard for what the Government ought to do at such a time. If the Government will not step up to its responsibilities, we will be speaking in vain during this Motion of Adjournment. The Government needs to start giving solutions to the many problems we are dealing with. An example is that of infrastructural development. The former President Emeritus, Hon. Mwai Kibaki, is credited with building an amazing piece of infrastructure in the name of Thika Road. That piece of infrastructure was sufficient at that time. However, if you go to Thika Road today, you will find a lot of traffic. Even more tragically, you will find all manner of traffic on that superhighway, namely, motorised traffic, 10-wheelers, matatus, boda bodas, and anything else that you can imagine, all fighting for the same lane. On the same infrastructural installation, you will see beautiful road signs that assign lanes to different types of traffic. On your extreme right, there is very clear signage that indicates that trucks and lorries cannot be on the fast lane. However, you will see Kenyans blindly speeding a 10-wheeler track on the fast lane which is reserved for overtaking and fast traffic. The Government has the responsibility of checking how we are policing our roads, developing infrastructure, conducting safety checks, and training drivers. This House also has a responsibility to play. We may need to review some laws to allow for a number of things which will even include behavioural change campaigns to change the national psyche. Hon. Temporary Speaker, because of time, I need to add that our laws will also need to bring on board technology so that it can assist where we have failed to police and bring safety to our roads. I wish this Motion of Adjournment could come to the House as a substantive amendment…"
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"content": "(Hon. John Kiarie spoke off the record)"
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you, Hon. KJ. Hon. Millie Odhiambo, the Member for Suba North."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I thank the Member for bringing this Motion of Adjournment. I will be very brief on this issue. As most Members have mentioned, we have passed laws as a House. The issue bedevilling this country is corruption. The reason we have unroadworthy vehicles is corruption. The reason there is speeding is corruption. The reason people who have caused accidents are not in jail is corruption. We can talk about this issue until God knows when, however, we need to deal with corruption, as a country. The only way to deal with corruption is to have political goodwill at the top. We hope the President will wake up, notice that Kenyans are dying and deal decisively with corruption. Countries that have moved ahead have dealt with corruption. I thank the Member."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you, Hon. Millie. Hon. Naisula Lesuuda, the Member for Samburu West."
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"speaker_name": "Samburu West, KANU",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Naisula Lesuuda",
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity to contribute to this very important Motion of The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Naisula Lesuuda",
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"content": "Adjournment on the increased numbers of accidents on our roads. I thank Hon. Oscar for bringing this Motion. I want to add to what my colleagues have said. It is very devastating and painful to lose many people every single day on our roads. Even one life lost is too much. Seven people were buried in Makueni yesterday. I can only imagine the pain that family is undergoing as it buried the seven members in one day. As Hon. KJ has said, we have to look at ourselves as Kenyans. We have very bad manners when it comes to the way we drive and cross roads. We do not follow traffic laws if there is no police officer. It is a matter of training and changing our mindset as Kenyans in terms of valuing our lives and the lives of others. It has been said that the Government’s role in enforcement of traffic laws is very important to ensure that we reduce the number of accidents. If you go to the developed world, it is not so much about what people would like to do, but it is about enforcement. You automatically know that you will lose your driving license for a year or two if you make many mistakes. Because of the cameras on the roads, you will get your fine waiting for you at your doorstep. People will then tend to follow the laws of the country. We are not short of laws and policies. We cannot run away from enforcing them so that people can correct their bad manners and ensure that we follow the law. Go to a country like Rwanda, which is our neighbour. We have said it many times. We should not compare ourselves to other countries. Other countries should be learning from us. There is discipline in Rwanda, right from boda bodas. Traffic laws are enforced by ensuring that they wear helmets and even passengers have helmets. They stick to their lanes. We should ensure that traffic laws are enforced and corruption is eradicated. Once corruption is entangled with law enforcement, it becomes impossible for proper enforcement to be done. I do not want to belabour the point. It is just unfortunate that we only talk about these issues when many accidents have occurred. That is when we see officials from the responsible ministry, and even we ourselves in Bunge talking about road accidents. This should be done every day, even when we do not have accidents. We should follow the law and enforce traffic laws every day and not wait until there are many accidents across the country to start trying to bandage a wound. Thank you for this opportunity. I hope we will change our mannerism and enforce traffic laws in our day-to-day lives."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Hon. Moses Injendi, the Member for Malava."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Malulu Injendi",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also rise to appreciate Hon. Oscar Nabulindo, the Member for Matungu, for this Motion of Adjournment. Those of us who have travelled to foreign countries, particularly Europe, America and even Rwanda know that we do not see police officers on the roads, and accidents are minimal. I am just wondering why the Cabinet Secretary for Roads, Transport and Public Works has decided to recall the NTSA. We recall that time it was being removed from the roads, it was because of how it was acting thus leading to many accidents in the country. If the deployment of NTSA officers plus police officers back to the roads is an issue of corruption, then it is very obvious that corruption will now be on the increase. It will be at its highest because both of them are public servants; they are employees of the Government. So, if police officers are taking bribes, then NTSA personnel will continue taking bribes too. In any case, even previously, NTSA personnel were the most corrupt in the country. So, the issue should not be increasing inspection on the roads, but rather improving police oversight. The other issue that I feel causes accidents on our roads is poor road designs. I want to cite the case of the road from Kakamega to Kaburengu in Kakamega County, specifically the The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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