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"content": "fertiliser, we should also subsidise seeds and seedlings. The two go concomitantly in terms of agricultural production. Finally, on the issue of roads, the roads that belong to the national Government and those that belong to the county government must be spelt out by the Kenya Roads Board. We should not get into a situation of a conflict on whose responsibility it is to do a particular road. I support. Thank you."
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"content": " Thank you. Member for Baringo."
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": "(Hon. Abdirahman Mohamed raised his hand)"
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Member for Lafey, I said I would follow the list. You are fourth or fifth in the list that I have. So, stop raising your hand now and when I give someone an opportunity."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, from the outset, I declare that I am a Member of the Budget and Appropriations Committee. We did a good job specifically on this Mediated Version of the Bill. Just like most Members have said, for the first time we have considered the Ksh400.1 billion to the counties. This is mostly because of the needs that were brought before us during the mediation. Most proposals were on the pending bills. Most counties are so much dependent on debts and the pending bills are becoming a problem. It is seriously hindering development in the counties. The proponents of the Constitution 2010, should have considered many things while establishing counties in Kenya. If we are not very careful, this country will get into deep problems because of the mismanagement of the counties today. In almost all programmes that are being done, for example in education, the quality is very poor. Education starts from ECD which is 100 per cent work of the counties. However, when you visit these counties, most of the time, education is deteriorating. This results in illiteracy in the country. That is why when we allocate this money, we expect the counties to step up specifically in enhancing the quality of education. They should build structures which can help our children have good quality of education. There is also a need for a paradigm shift in management. Most governors, maybe because they are elected, execute their work in a skewed manner. This is to the extent that one part of the county gets development at the expense of another. This gives so much discrepancy that counties may not be able to develop equally. Corruption is also becoming a problem as corruption habits have developed in the counties. This has impaired the development of the counties such that we have problems in production. For example, in agriculture, instead of us continuously producing, we are continuously consuming. This has depleted the coffers. All the time we need a lot of money to support the counties specifically in the healthcare systems. Therefore, we thank the president for allowing us to give this Ksh400 billion to the counties for more support."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Member for Samburu West."
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"speaker_name": "Samburu West, KANU",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Naisula Lesuuda",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I thank you for the opportunity to support the Mediated Version of the Division of Revenue Allocation Bill. I thank the leadership of this Committee —Hon. Ndindi Nyoro and Hon. Senator Murungi — who co-chaired the Mediation Committee, which I was part of. It was an intense meeting and some of the misconceptions were that the National Assembly does not support devolution. That was cancelled because Members of the National Assembly who were The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "sitting in the Mediation Committee agreed with the Senate that it is important for us to fund devolution fully so that devolution can work for our people. This came out from the final amount that was agreed on. The Senate had proposed Ksh415 billion, the Commission on Revenue Allocation proposed Ksh396 billion while the National Assembly had proposed Ksh391 billion. By the end of the mediation process, we all agreed on an unprecedented figure of Ksh400.1 billion to go to our counties as shareable revenue. I agree with Hon. Nyikal who said that it is important when we are preparing the Budget Policy Statement (BPS), to know the priority areas of our counties. This will inform our decisions as the Budget and Appropriations Committee and as a House. We know the projections of the counties and some of the things they would like to do. Hon. Temporary Speaker, you were also part of the Mediation Committee and saw that the Senate had an elaborate view of why they wanted more funds to go to the counties. They had a document which showed that there were some counties which had started the industrial parks. There were 21 others which had not started, while others had existing parks which needed to be funded. There was the issue of the Community Health Workers, where the county governments and national government were both giving a shilling thus funding our Community Health Promoters who are doing an excellent job. There was the statutory requirement of the taxes that were increased like the Housing Levy which the county government employees are supposed to remit. The Senate had a bigger picture of why county governments should get the funds. I agree that this House needs to be apprised of some of these issues when we are making the BPS. Matters that are discussed in the IBEC need to find a way into this House so that when we are allocating these funds we know what we are dealing with. We also agreed that even though we have challenges of misappropriation in some of our counties, as a House, we will not play the politics of individual counties.We have also agreed that despite facing challenges such as funds being misused at the county level, we, as a House, will not engage in county-specific politics. We will ensure that funds are allocated to all counties because devolution has brought services closer to our people in some of our counties. We need to reconsider devolving some of the functions of the National Government, like health and agriculture. I would also like to congratulate the Chairperson of the Council of Governors, Governor Anne Waiguru. Over time, we have seen her engaging with the relevant committees and Members of this House, to increase the percentage going to the counties in her tenure. We have seen her dedication and commitment to ensuring that more funds go to counties and are remitted on time before the end of the financial year."
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"speaker_name": "Samburu West, KANU",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Naisula Lesuuda",
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"content": "Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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