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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Thank you. Hon. Members, join me in welcoming students from Happyland Girls Senior School, from Kajiado East in the Speakers Gallery. They are welcome to follow our proceeding this afternoon. I allow Hon. Caleb Mule to welcome students from Machakos Girls High School and Happyland Girls Senior School."
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"speaker_name": "Machakos Town, MCCP",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I take this opportunity to welcome students from Machakos Girls High School and the schools at the Speaker’s Gallery and the Public Gallery. I encourage them that the sky is the limit. One time, many years ago, I visited Parliament and I was seated at the Public Gallery. I did not imagine that one time I would be seated here as a Member of Parliament. You are welcome and I encourage you to continue working hard. Thank you very much. I would also like to contribute to … The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": " Hon. Mule, that was not your chance to contribute. This chance now goes to the Member for Suna West."
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"speaker_name": "Suna West, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Peter Masara",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I take this opportunity to congratulate Members of the National Assembly and the Senate who mediated this Bill. As a country, the only thing after Independence that we can celebrate is the 2010 Constitution, which established county governments. I am happy to have been a Member of the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) in the 12th Parliament. We audited the Government books of accounts to an extent where counties could get funds based on the audit on the 2020/2021 Financial Year. By the time we got to the 12th Parliament, the audited accounts were for the 2013/2014 Financial Year. In retrospect, is devolution working for us; are we getting value for money appropriated to the county governments? In my opinion, without fear of contradiction, I believe that devolution is still not working for us due to governance issues. I have extensive experience in county government governance, having served as the last Mayor of the Municipal Council of Migori. During that time, we would receive very little funds through the Local Authorities Transfer Fund (LATF) yet citizens could see the amount of work done. Currently, with over Ksh400 billion allocated to the counties, there is nothing to show for it. In contrast, the impact of the NG-CDF is evident. While I am a supporter of devolution, I firmly believe that as a country, we need to take action. We should enact legislation through Parliament to ensure that the public receives value for the funds allocated to county governments. The main question is, what is the role of the Controller of Budget? Is this office effective? We must empower the Auditor-General so that the Ksh400 billion allocated to the counties can be audited. This will ensure that we get value for our money. My proposal is that Members of the County Assembly (MCAs), whose role is to oversee the governors should have a Ward Development Fund. We need to create this Fund so that after we have allocated money to counties, each ward can get its share of this budget. It should not be that only MCAs who ‘worship’ governors get projects while the rest do not benefit. For example, if an MCA speaks about an evil a governor has done he is blacklisted. Therefore, moving forward, I suggest that the Ward Development Fund should be put in place. We must also budget for the Auditor- General to carry out audit for counties. Furthermore, as a country, we need to do things in a way that the public sees the benefits of projects done by county governments. In some counties, you find a project of an ECD classroom done at Ksh600,000 being launched with 100 staff of the county government in attendance and 20 vehicles. It means that the money spent on the launch exceeds the money used on the project. This must stop. As we tax people, they should get benefits so that as taxes are increased they do not complain. My proposal is that it is over 10 years since the inception of devolution. We must re-check what needs to be done so that we can improve on the quality of services our people get from the money allocated to the county governments. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. May God bless you."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Member for Khwisero."
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"speaker_name": "Khwisero, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Christopher Wangaya",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I join my colleagues in support of the Mediated version of the Division of Revenue Bill which provides funds to the National Government, county governments, Equalisation Fund and Consolidated Funds Services. I also thank the Mediation Committee for mediating this Bill. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Khwisero, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Christopher Wangaya",
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"content": "We are where we are today because of the ineffectiveness of the Commission of Revenue Allocation (CRA). As a country and a House, we must think critically on whether we still need the CRA. If we need it, then it must up its game and advise accordingly. We should also think whether we need these commissioners on full-time basis. This is because according to the responsibilities and the roles they have, they only advise and propose a formula. The National Government has been allocated approximately a whopping Ksh2.5 trillion. In as much as we are looking into the Ksh400 billion allocated to county governments, we must also interrogate how the 85 per cent of the budget allocated to the National Government is utilised across the country. I propose that we allocate these monies based on the constituency levels. We should interrogate this budget to know, out of the 290 constituencies, what has gone to, for example, Khwisero, Ugenya or Kiharu constituencies. This will ensure that we maintain the equality of resource distribution in this country. As we allocate and appropriate Ksh400 billion to county governments, according to the Fourth Schedule of the Constitution. There are functions that the county governments are supposed to do. One, they must ensure that our health systems are working. Our people in the villages must access quality and safe health facilities. Two, we should look into the issue of water. We must ensure that we have safe water for our people. It must also be accessible at the doorsteps. As I finish, we must also laud the kings and patriots who fought for the devolution of this country. As we support this Bill, we must also appreciate the Azimio Party Leader, Hon. Raila Amollo Odinga, who really fought for the devolution of this country. As we wish him well as he goes to the African Union, we must all laud him for his efforts to ensure that devolution works in the Republic of Kenya. Lastly, as a House, we must rise and interrogate this budget and ensure that it is equitably distributed to all regions in the Republic of Kenya. I wish you well as the Party Leader of Movement of Democracy and Growth (MDG). Thank you,"
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"content": " Thank you. The last part is most important actually. The Member for Kisii."
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"speaker_name": "Kisii County, WDM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Dorice Donya",
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"content": " Thank you Hon. Temporary Speaker. As I support this Motion, allow me to first tell our male Members of Parliament that June is men's mental health month. Let me share a small quote with them, because we, women, cannot do without the male. “Life is sweet, it is tough and unforgiving, so you know what to do”. As I support the Motion, there are many functions that have been devolved to our counties, and we still keep talking about them. For instance, I come from Kisii County where we receive good rains. Water is a devolved function but unfortunately, immediately after the rains, our women have to walk down to the streams to fetch water. Currently, some county functions are not working. We have resources in Kisii County which are lying idle in the County Revenue Fund Account. As we give counties the budget, we should issue a stern warning to governors who do not pay pending bills. There is no need to give them money yet when the financial year ends, they still have a lot of money in those accounts. Contractors are complaining whereas the money is there, which is not good. Teachers, too, are complaining, especially the ECD teachers who do not have classes. They have also not been promoted, and this is very sad. As at today, there are no tetanus vaccines in hospitals. Most women who wanted to plan on giving birth this year are discouraged because small things which are basic to us are missing. Even extension officers who used to train farmers on good agricultural practices are also missing. We give counties money for floods, but at the end of the day, the governor gives Ksh5,000 or Ksh10,000 to victims out of the whole allocation. Out of the Ksh200 million which The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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