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"speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon (Dr.) Ojiambo Oundo",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. When we were enacting the Constitution of Kenya, 2010, we were extremely careful. We knew that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. That is why Chapter 6, on Integrity and Leadership, was inserted in the Constitution. Unfortunately, we proceeded to prepare an Act of Parliament that made a mockery of Chapter 6 of the Constitution. We proceeded to have various The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon (Dr.) Ojiambo Oundo",
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"content": "anti-corruption laws that do not seem to be biting because out there, many Kenyans believe that it is the political class who are the purveyors of corruption in this country. Hon. Speaker, as Parliament – the National Assembly and the Senate – if we can water down the Bill that we passed here to make it practically impossible to hold accountable elected leaders, then we are taking this country into the abyss. That is why I support the Motion as moved by the Leader of Majority Party. What Senate did was a great disservice to this country."
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"speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon (Dr.) Ojiambo Oundo",
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"content": "I think Senate is suffering from inferiority complex. The Senators think that Members of the National Assembly are wallowing in a lot of money. That is why they have got the pettiness of coming to see how many cars are in the parking lot of the National Assembly. They come to see how many new cars or new tyres Members of Parliament have bought. The Senators, including even those who have been here, have the misconception that Members of the National Assembly use the National Government Constituency Development Fund (NG-CDF) to fund their personal lifestyles. We cannot afford to allow conflict of interest not to be called out for redress."
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"speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon (Dr.) Ojiambo Oundo",
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"content": "Hon. Speaker, we are in a position of influence. If we allow ourselves to do business with the entities that we oversee, it would mean that no other Kenyan will ever get a contract or any job in this country unless they know somebody. We must wean ourselves off the mentality that you must know somebody to get employed. That, you must be connected to get a tender; and, that, you must bribe to be paid for any work that you have done anywhere. I urge those who will be appointed to sit in the mediation committee to be very firm. I have previously sat in mediation committee. The Senators can bully ordinary Members into accepting their way. In this instance, we should go to mediation with the irreducible minimum, which is the Bill that we passed in this House. If they come with any other story, we will expose and surrender them to the Gen-Zs to deal with them accordingly. With those remarks, I support the Motion as moved by the Leader of the Majority Party."
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"content": "Member for Gichugu. Give him the microphone."
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"speaker_name": "Gichugu, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Gichimu Githinji",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I support the Motion as moved by the Leader of the Majority Party. The principle of conflict of interest has been there for many years. It has been loosely used under the tenets of natural justice. Therefore, it has been left to the courts to determine whether there is conflict of interest or not in any matter of arbitration. Here is a Bill or law that was very explicit on matters of conflict of interest. This House will not allow the Senate to stand in the way of Kenyans in the fight against corruption. That is what they want to do with this Bill. As a House, we must stand firm and support the Government, which is committed to the fight against corruption. The Executive, through the President, has already pronounced itself that this Government will fight corruption. Therefore, the Senate should not come in the way of the will of Kenyans to fight corruption. Without belabouring the point, I support the Motion as moved and reject in totality the proposals made by the Senate."
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"content": "Hon. K.J."
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"speaker_name": "Dagoretti South, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. John Kiarie",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I stand to support the Motion as moved by the Leader of the Majority Party. I also object to the changes that were made by the Senate. This Bill was a great opportunity for this House to start addressing some of the matters that are being canvassed by the young people who are calling themselves Gen-Zs. The matter of conflict of interest in the management of public affairs is a thorn in the flesh in this country. While this House sought to remedy some of those maladies, it looks like the Senate is keen on taking us The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "back to a situation where we are unable to counter the issue of conflict of interest. For that reason, I object to the Senate amendments. The issue that is being canvassed in the country today is actually us being called to order. As a Republic, at a point like this, when we are asking ourselves about the conflict of interest, even our Constitution is ready for an audit. It has been with us for some good 15 years. So, at this point, we should ask ourselves how it has served us in the last 15 years. When we audit the Constitution, we shall put the Senate on the spot. We shall ask ourselves whether its composition, as it is now, is serving Kenyans. In my mind, some amendments to the Constitution will occasion us to relook at how the Senate is constituted. It is required to attend to county matters. Even as the Gen-Zs are calling out the rot in the national Government, we know that there are bigger problems in the counties. If the Senate was true to its roles, it would have gone to the county governments and checked the rot that is happening in the executives and the conflict of interest that is happening through the businesses that are being conducted in the counties. I object vehemently. As we look at matters of conflict of interest, this is the right time for this country to have a conversation with itself on how the Constitution has served us for the last 15 years. I believe that if we were to relook at how the Senate is composed, as a country, we might decide to borrow a leaf from jurisdictions like the United Kingdom (UK), where the House of Commons has its job cut out. The Senate is reserved for very esteemed people and citizens. If we were to re-compose our Senate, we might decide to reserve it for Kenyans who have diligently served in specific areas. Such people should be the ones to be nominated to the Senate. So, it is a proper nyumba ya wazee which advises the country on very topical and technical issues from a point of information. At times, the Senate finds itself with no business to prosecute other than meddle with the work that is being done by the National Assembly. As such, they use their time doing what we have before us this afternoon. I object to the amendments that have been made by the Senate and support the Motion as amended and moved by the Leader of the Majority Party. Thank you very much."
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"content": "Those on the screen like Hon. Ndindi Nyoro, Hon. Johanna Ng'eno and Hon. John Gitonga, do you want to speak on the Supplementary Estimates?"
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