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"content": " Thank you for giving me this opportunity. I just want to acknowledge that you have said: “The one occupying”. Gen. Zs have already told us to occupy. Why can I not occupy the position of the Leader of the Minority Party if they can occupy Parliament? This is totally in order if you see what men do in this House. They have gone outside there and negotiated with the President. They are the ones who are taking the positions of cabinet secretaries. Do they think we can sit here and watch them as they come to talk about taking this position also? My mother tongue says telo ikao koming’ato. Nishachukua! Hiiimeenda."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona",
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"content": "Let them look for another one. If they want to negotiate with me, we will negotiate when I am seated. I said in this House that good girls never get the corner office. I am a bad girl. I have sat here. I am looking for the corner office. I am taking that corner office if Opiyo Wandayi has gone. If you agree, the very least I can do is to take the one that is very close. Nothing any less than that. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Having said that, I thank Gen. Zs for the revolution. I know many of us have diverse views about it. As a person who has been in this struggle for many years, I want to say that very interesting things that happened out of it. That includes bringing us to a unique situation where we are actually doing a Supplementary Budget before we have implemented the Budget. I do not think this has ever happened in this country. I encourage us, as Members of Parliament that, sometimes, when we have gone through the challenging parts and we feel like we are in a secure place, we forget where we have come from. For the first time, let us not forget that there have been Gen Zs across. Some who were our children are our grandchildren. I raised the alarm on this Floor before the 25th. It came to pass because we do not listen sometimes. We think we have all the answers when we are leaders. We do not! We have a generation that is experiencing life differently. Sometimes, they are also experiencing what we did. It is just that we have forgotten we need to listen to them. Yesterday, I was meeting my cousin who was visiting me from Canada. Her daughter has pierced her nose, with a ring on it. I wanted to complain on why she had a ring on her nose. Before I could raise my voice, I was reminded that I had one once upon a time. I had even forgotten that I had a ring on my nose. I was asking the person whether I did. I was told: “Yes you did.” Hon. Temporary Speaker, I was so thrilled to just sit back and see myself from another perspective when I saw all the scenes of the Gen. Zs for the first time. I was on the street and lying down with police guns hoovering over me when I was that age. Why? Although I appreciate all the things they are saying, that age makes you think that you can change the world and you must change it now. For us who are older, we must listen to the idealism of the youth because we need it as a country, and we infuse it with our realism. That is the only way we can take the country forward. That is why I am happy that they forced us to bring this Supplementary Estimates that is speaking to some of the things that we have been saying before. I have been listening very carefully to some of the things that those Gen. Zs are saying. They say very simple things. Today we had an opportunity. Some of us who are women Members of Parliament were in a function with some of the Gen. Zs, and I carried my grandchild along. She is very young. I did not think she could speak before people, but she challenged us by saying that we people are telling them that they are rich children with mobile phones. And she asked us if we wanted poor children to be the ones demonstrating about their poverty. They say in very simple terms, but very poignant. Do we want the poor children to be the ones demonstrating about their poverty? If you can unpackage what that means, even if they are privileged, and it takes me back to this Budget. Whenever we budget, we do not do a realistic budget. This Budget, for the first time, is attempting to be realistic. The only challenge I am facing with this Budget is the implementation of austerity measures. Unfortunately, whenever we budget, we do not take certain principles into account. The principles of gender equity, equity, marginalisation and inclusion and the converse inclusion. It is not just that we do not take it during budgeting. We also do not take that into account during the budget cuts. Who do we look for? The same way men are dishing out these seats to themselves, is the same way when the budget comes, we start slashing things to do with women, children and youths. I have pointed it out to my Budget and Appropriations Committee. I am glad that our Committee has listened and has returned some. We want to encourage you men, please, listen to us. This country is not about you alone. There are other people in this country. There are women in this country. Whether you are budgeting or doing cuts, can you look at how it impacts on women, children, youths and persons with disabilities? It is even embarrassing. I am glad we shared it with the Bishop who spoke before me. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona",
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"content": "That, I was in a moral dilemma as we were moving out of here. I went to get my bag in the lounge. The Bishop, together with Hon. Museo, told me: “Hon. Millie, you are leaving us here?” I quickly thought, because the groups were already coming. They were very many. I looked around me and I was like, where do I take them? Everybody was walking up the stairs. They are in wheelchairs. Where do you take them? So, even in our own budgeting when we are building this Parliament, when you look at the exits, where do the persons with disability go? Our budgeting never takes that into account. That is why I hope we are not pushed into a corner only in 2024 and then in 2025, we go back to our bad manners. Let every budgeting that we do; not look like it is a budget of a crisis. We should think about Kenyans. Sometimes, I do not know what leadership does to us. I am writing my book which I call Privileged . It is misleading because my privilege is because God enabled me to go through some challenges in life, so that I am privileged that when I am in a position like this, I understand. My father was a member of the regional assembly and so, I was a child of the privileged. Whenever we had events like Madaraka Day or public holidays, I used to be taken to the front when my father was alive. My father died in November and in December when I went to the front, I was chased and told to go and stand in the sun. I was like: \"Hey! You guys do not understand! I am the daughter of Harrison Odhiambo.\" But I was told: \" Kwendakabisa .\" I was beaten and taken back. That has taught me that even when I am a leader, I do not need to feel good, floss and show off to people. What for? These things are flimsy and they are here for a moment. The lessons that have just happened here are things to teach us that these things are for a moment."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona",
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"content": "Hon. Temporary Speaker, I can see my time is up. Let us deal with the issue of corruption and put money for victims who have died during those demonstrations. Thank you."
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"content": " Thank you. Member for Soy, Hon. David Kiplagat."
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"speaker_name": "Soy, UDA",
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"content": " Thank you. I rise to support, though reluctantly, the Supplementary Budget that has been tabled in this House. I say reluctantly because, as the representative of the people of Soy, we had a lot of expectations when we were initially preparing the Budget. One of the main expectations was addressing the last mile connectivity issue, which is still between 30 and 35 percent. People are always on our necks. I speak on behalf of all the Uasin Gishu Members of Parliament, as our constituents expect us to address the last mile connectivity problem. We were very happy when we saw the light at the end of the tunnel with the allocation of Ksh14.5 billion for the constituencies. In fact, I was telling Hon. Jalas the other day that since Lang'ata is already 100 percent connected, we could talk behind the tent so that he could assist me with Ksh50 million, thus allowing me to bring my allocation to Ksh100 million. Unfortunately, due to what has happened and we all regret, the Finance Bill was withdrawn, and the Government's revenue-raising measures were curtailed. This has adversely affected the last mile connectivity. I call upon the Committee on Budget and Appropriations and the Committee on Energy to revisit the issue of the last mile connectivity. We need to consider sacrificing other projects and reducing recurrent expenditure to raise the Ksh14.5 billion that was initially allocated. This could have been achieved. As it stands now, the connectivity problem within Soy Constituency remains unresolved."
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"speaker_name": "Soy, UDA",
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"content": "I am hoping that there will be another supplementary before the end of this financial year. That is something that should be considered. I even suggested that the Ksh10 billion allocated for The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "the NG-CDF, which I have been informed has also been affected, could be transferred to the last mile connectivity. For my case, I could be a very happy man. That is why I support these Supplementary Estimates since the Government has no otherwise because of what happened, but reluctantly so. Another thing that we need to address is the concerns raised by the younger generation, Gen. Zs, regarding wastage, accountability and transparency. These issues are very important. As the fathers of our young generation, we need to listen to their complaints and understand that they feel uninformed about why certain actions are being taken. It is very important for us to sit down and have a conversation with the young people, so that they can understand that since Independence, we have been accumulating a debt which now stands at over Ksh11 trillion. We usually have to pay it as a first charge. I was telling them that we are paying around Kshs1.1 trillion per year. I believe even the counties should be discussed. I will bring a Motion to discuss the legitimacy of the Council of Governors (CoG). I know they keep suing the National Assembly left, right and centre, including wanting to disband NG-CDF, which has achieved a lot. As currently constituted, CoG has no legal bearing. It is not within our laws. Given that it has no legal framework, that organisation should be disbanded so that they can stop disturbing us in the corridors of our courts."
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