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"content": " Proceed to respond, hon. Zipporah."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, and hon. Members for those questions. I will start with the first one, which was not a question, but a comment, which I believe was directed to me about a woman removing another woman from the office. I submit to this House---"
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"content": " Madam Zipporah, that was a comment. Please, respond to the question."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Regarding to the video that I referred to and said that the position is vacant, I submitted here that concerning all those videos, I had a media interview of more than one hour. Since the videos are not dated, I could not extract them to exactly get what I talked about. That is just a small segment of 20 seconds. I want to submit to this House, I must have raised very serious governance issues during that media interview. I cannot remember under which context that one was sent which is exactly why I said I could have been taken out of context. I again submit that I never said my watchman took the video. Indeed, the video was retrieved from the CCTV cameras from my home. I submitted that the watchman heard something fall because he was not far. He went to check what had fallen and found the fire. That was my initial submission and I still insist that is the position. On the six times question from hon. Sen. Mungatana, I want to note that it is not about the many times that the Governor of Meru is impeached. It is about fighting for good governance, accountability, delivery of services in Meru County and someone taking responsibility for the position given. It is not about witch-hunt or anything. I think that shows the determination that we need a Meru County that is functional, where services are being delivered and where the county government is serving the people of Meru. I thank you."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Wakili Sigei",
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"content": " Thank you. Let us now, hear from Sen. M. Kajwang’ and thereafter Sen. Tabitha Mutinda. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I want to be very direct and go to the exhibit that was submitted by the County Assembly. On page 353 of volume two, you took us there to demonstratethat the wage bill grew by Kshs500 million from Kshs4.4 billion to Kshs4.9 billion. Did the County Assembly approve the Kshs4.9 billion budget or was the Kshs500 million, excess expenditure over and above what the County Assembly approved? Number two; on page 375 of volume two, you have a schedule there showing the transfers that were made to the various entities. These entities include the Meru Investment and Development Corporation, the Meru County Revenue Board, the Meru Youth Service and Meru Microfinance Corporation, which in your submission you said the Governor violated the Constitution by not appointing the chairs of the boards. At the same time, on page 375, we have the report of the Auditor-General showing Kshs699 million, close to Kshs700 million was transferred to some of these boards. Did the County Assembly approve the Kshs699 million transfer? If the County Assembly did approve it, then what then would be the matter of saying that the boards were not effective due non- appointment? Finally, you took us to Section 58 of the County Governments Act that talks about the Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of the County Public Service Board (CPSB). I want to get your views on Section 56 and 57 of the same Act. The Head of the County Public Service is the County Secretary. The CPSB works with the County Secretary to ensure that---"
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"content": " Sen. M. Kajwang’, your time is up. Proceed, Sen. Tabitha Mutinda."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Hon. Zipporah, Clause 4 of the Meru County Revenue Board indicates that “there shall be an established Board.”Clause 6 talks about the composition of the board and it further emphasizes that the Act, therefore, requires the board to have a Chair. Since you are a Member of the PAC as you have stated before this House, did you have any opportunity to have an audit query in regards to how funds were allocated or approved because we have seen that funds have been utilized? Putting in mind, Article 229(6) of the Constitution says that an audit report shall confirm whether or not public money has been applied lawfully and in an effective way. Lastly, after the second impeachment of the Meru Governor as the County Assembly, what remedy did you put in place as the leaders and the MCAs to ensure that you sought the issues of Meru County, once and for all?"
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"content": " Hon. Zipporah Kinya, proceed to respond to those questions. Be mindful of the time."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir and hon. Members. On the first question, indeed, the Assembly approved the funds. Whereas, it is the responsibility of the County Assembly to approve the funds, Section 30 of the County Government Act, 2012, mandates the governor of any county to be accountable for the management and use of the county resources. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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