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"speaker_name": "Sen. Wakili Sigei",
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"content": " Sen. Oketch Gicheru, if you followed the sequence of the evidence the witness gave, and the questions from cross- examination to now, she is objecting that the documents have been signed by her. That is what the Hon. Members are seeking clarification on. Your concern is as good as the concerns that the rest of the Members have raised. I do not think in these circumstances, we need any expert examination of what the witness said, she did not sign. Nonetheless, let us allow her to respond to the questions by Sen. Cherarkey and Sen. Veronica Maina."
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"content": "Thank you very much, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir and Hon. Members. As I said, the Governor advised that I could only give any legal advice on a need basis. As an advocate, you cannot solicit to give advice. You can only wait to be requested for the advice. When the second impeachment came, around November, 2023, the Governor called me in her residence. Before that, I was in Kakamega. She called me through the telephone and asked for certain legal advice, which, as I said before, I am restricted through advocate-client relationship. Out of the respect that I have for the Governor, I will not disclose the advice that she required. Soon after the impeachment is when she called and asked me to resign. So, which means, our relationship did not last long. I was shocked yesterday while in Diani where we were attending an annual conference for the Law Society of Kenya (LSK), when I was sent a copy of that document. It was the first time that I saw that document. I had to travel with a small baby at night, so that I could come and see whether I would be allowed to clear my name out of that document. When I came, I submitted before that I went to the Parliament Police Station. The Officer Commanding Station (OCS called the Director of Criminal Investigations (DCI) and they said I can only make a report in Meru, where the issue had arose. I said earlier that I am going to pursue it because I believe that the truth shall set me free. Even if a document examiner was to come here, for sure he will exonerate me. I am speaking the truth and only fearing God. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "I thank you."
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"content": " Thank you, Ms. Linda. Any other person? We are out of the 15 minutes time we granted to this clarification. Sen. Ogola, do you have a question to the counsel? That will be the last Member I am granting this opportunity, so that we close on this witness."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. My initial comment is on that the burden of proving forgery. Who alleges the forgery? Linda needed to have submitted evidence that it is not her signature. However, Linda, you were a legal advisor to the Governor at some point and you know in the Constitution, alternative dispute resolution methods are catered for there. Did you at any point advice the Governor on any alternative dispute methods that could have been used in this long running dispute and if you did, what attempts were made?"
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"content": " Ms. Linda, I want you to respond to that question in under one minute."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. In my relationship with the Governor, she was very secretive. She did not consult a lot and my options were very limited. She is my employer and she tells me that I will only come to you when I need to. Limited only. Even if you asked me for a written legal opinion that I have written in that short period of three months, I would say I do not have because the Governor told me to work with the CECM of Legal Affairs. I can produce documents that I have prepared on behalf of this CECM. However, for the Governor, she only allowed me to advise her during the second impeachment and I can confirm that I attended the High Court of Meru before the Court of Appeal Judges who were hearing her matter in the Meru High Court."
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"content": " That is sufficient. Hon. Members, that brings us to the end of the clarification session that we had with the witnesses. Ms. Linda, you can take your leave. You are released. We have the last witness, Mr. Jacob Kirari. Hon. Members, I believe you have been served with a copy of a section of the register, which was shared. We would like to have the witness brought into the stand."
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"content": "(The Temporary Speaker (Sen. WakiliSigei) consulted with the Clerk-at-the-Table)"
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"content": "Clerk, you were earlier sworn in and the Counsel for the County Assembly has only nine minutes to conclude with this witness, out of your time that had earlier on been shared with other witnesses. Therefore, starting now, run through with the witness. This document has been shared with the Members and the original version of it has been shared with the Counsel for the Governor. There is also a soft copy that has been shared and I believe Members have gotten an opportunity to look at it. Counsel, it is your turn to take the witness through, being mindful of the nine minutes at your disposal. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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