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"content": "Thank you Mr. Speaker, Sir. It is very unfortunate sitting here and listening to the level of impunity by a governor who has refused to attend several Committee invitation. This governor appeared before the County Public Investments and Special Funds Committee and the kind of conduct he exhibited when he appeared was the most unbecoming conduct from a governor. He almost exchanged with some of the Members who are asking valid questions on matters of governance in Isiolo County. Mr. Speaker, Sir, you remember that in this House, I sponsored a Bill; an amendment to the Powers and Privileges Act, where I said that we need to enhance the fine from Kshs500,000 to Kshs2 million and also put in provisions on how the arrest can be executed. That Bill was passed by this House and is lying in the National Assembly. At this point, I wish the National Assembly can speed up the passage of that Bill so that we can deal with matters like this. Some governors take it like a crime if we invite them to appear before the Senate. They think that we are punishing them. We are simply doing our oversight role as per Article 96 of the Constitution. I thank those governors who have honoured our invitations in our various committees, appeared and answered questions affecting their counties. However, there are others who when invited, try and use all manner of excuses not to appear. That is against devolution, which this House, under Article 96 exist to protect. As Sen. Olekina has said, it is high time we have Censure Motions on some of these governors. It should go beyond your Communication so that we have a censure Motion to discuss the conduct of this governor and any other governor who will run away from our summons. Mr. Speaker, Sir, two weeks ago, we summoned the former governor of Kitui County, Hon. Charity Ngilu, over the matter of Kitui County Textile Centre (KICOTEC), The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "where millions of money was embezzled. The former governor did not even respond to our request---"
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"content": " Senate Majority Leader, proceed."
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will not finish the three minutes. I have one thing to say. Your communication is very well reasoned. The only thing I expected that your ruling fell short of is that you should have ordered the IG of the NPS to search and produce the governor, whether he is in Isiolo, Dubai or whichever part of the world. I believe it is out of the abundance of caution not to be taken as usurping the powers that belong to the chairpersons of our committees. However, given that this is a matter that is presently before various committees, then I agree with your wisdom. I expect that at the next sitting of any of these committees that the governor has defied, the chairpersons alongside the Members will draft the summons and ask the IG of NPS to produce that governor and ensure that he is in safe custody until the next sitting of that Committee. We have a very good police station here at Parliament. It is for dealing with errant members of society, which include governors who fail to honour summons. Therefore, I want to hear that a certain Senate Committee has ordered the IG of NPS to arrest, detain, and produce governor Guyo before the next sitting of the Committee for failure to honour summons before, until he learns to respect Parliament. I thank you."
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"content": " Sen. Wambua, proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I associate myself with the comments by the Senate Majority Leader, but with some amendments. A lot will be said by Senators, but this governor has disobeyed invitations and summons by various committees. Requiring that each Committee then contact the IG of the NPS to produce the governor before them may be a bit of a tall order. If it were possible, there are two options: One is that a Motion is brought before this House so that we pass a resolution requiring the IG of the NPS to arrest and produce the governor. Alternatively, the Chairman of the Liaison Committee, where all the chairmen of committees sit, takes up the matter with the IG of the NPS on behalf of the Senate. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the governor of Isiolo County has shown contempt of the first degree, not against the committees, but the Senate of the Republic of Kenya. As you have heard from Sen. Ososti, once that example is set, it becomes very popular with other governors. At the end of the day, what will happen is that when governors are asked to appear before the Senate, they will decide whether to come or not. In this case, let this Senate ensure that the governor of Isiolo County is physically arrested and locked up in the cells in the Parliament Police Station and produced before a Plenary sitting of the Senate. This will serve as an example to other governors who are also wayward, who have no respect and do not honour summons and invitations by Committees of the Senate. Article 125 (2) (a) of the Constitution is very clear that a House of Parliament or any of its committees can enforce the---"
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"content": " Sen. Mungatana, proceed. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, my note was on Order No. 11, so I will pass."
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"content": " Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I appreciate and congratulate you for that Communication. My contribution is in two parts. I request governors to realise that devolution did not just happen in this country. Men and women of this Republic made sacrifices, people lost their limbs, properties and lives. My second comment is that, whereas I agree with you on the how, I want to draw your attention to Article 245 of the Constitution of Kenya, which establishes the National Police Service. Mr. Speaker, Sir, in this article, there is part four, which says that the Cabinet Secretary responsible for police services may lawfully give a direction to the Inspector General (IG) with respect to any matter of policy for the national state, but no person may give direction to the IG in respect of investigation and enforcement matters. I was thinking that we should have taken the right route; by asking the Cabinet Secretary to do what the Constitution gives him in the section that I have read. Failure to that, we shall have contravened sub-section four, which does not allow any other person other than the Cabinet Secretary. I support your communication."
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