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"speaker_name": "Sen. Abdul Haji",
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"content": " Proceed, Sen. Mo Fire."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I support the Motion by the Senator of Isiolo. I have been around for the last close to two years now. I serve in various committees, including being the Chairperson of the Committee on Delegated Legislation in the Senate I have observed with a lot of dismay that there is purported and imagined overrated rivalry between governors and Senators for no apparent reason. Oversight is a constitutional obligation. For that matter, Sen. Dullo is not pursuing her interests; she is doing what is exactly enshrined in the Constitution. The rivalry is not between the governor and the Senator. The rivalry is between what the Constitution dictates. The governor has to obey the summonses and the invitation from various Senate committees. I have observed that several people who have served as Members of National Assembly, Senators and Members of the County Assembly (MCAs) are very defiant and rogue when it comes to appearing before the Senate committees. I do not know for what reasons. I think it is important for us, as a House, to make some very serious regulations on that matter. We need to tame these governors. Sadly, even some of us are making a lot of lamentations in this House today, tomorrow you will become a governor. I will not be surprised to see that quite a number of us who might be governor’s tomorrow might follow the same path. When invited to these committees, they will just defy because they know so-and-so who has been their colleague maybe in the previous regime, is the chairperson of that committee. So, let us not run away from making sure these things are individual. It is about the Constitution. The governor for Isiolo County must be compelled to make sure that he appears in every committee in this House. We have a committee known as the National Cohesion and Integration Committee chaired by the Senator of Marsabit, Sen. Chute. I remember that we have in the file, several invitations for the governor of Isiolo County, which have not been observed. He has defied all those invitations. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, it is important to stamp our authority over these invitations so that we do not dilute the essence and best interests of devolution and the interests of our people in our relevant counties. I support."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Abdul Haji",
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"content": " Sen. Tabitha Mutinda, proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Let me start by appreciating Senator for Isiolo County, Sen. Dullo, for bringing this important Motion before this House. In the Committee on Finance and Budget that I sit and serve as Vice-Chairperson, we have dealt with the issue of the pending bills for Isiolo County. When the Senator for Isiolo County asked the committee about the issue of pending bills for her county, the committee, through the secretariat, did the needful and wrote to Isiolo County. That has been over one year ago and up to date, but is has never responded to this. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "As a committee, we summoned the governor and he gave an excuse indicating that he was hosting a function for the county which was combined with Marsabit County, among others and that it was much of priority unlike appearing before the committee. As I speak, the committee has summoned the same governor. He is supposed to appear next week on 22nd October, 2024, on the same response, and we await. Chances are he might not appear. It is good we are having this discussion because we have other matters we want to prosecute. I also sit in the County Public Investments and Special Funds Committee (CPISFC). It is true there was an exchange between the same governor and Sen. Olekina. This was a big disappointment. After that exchange, his team members, I presume went ahead to put some of the Members of the committee on social media, claiming that the Senator of Isiolo County was just attacking the governor and we seemed to be condoning it. This was an issue that shocked us as Members because we do not participate in such matters. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, it would be prudent for the governor to appear before this House to answer queries because it seems that he has chosen not to appear before all the committees. The best solution even before he appears to other committees should be for him to appear before this House to answer why he has decided to disrespect this House."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Abdul Haji",
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"content": " Sen. Githuku, do you want to contribute to the allegations made at Isiolo County or the next Motion?"
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this one for Isiolo County."
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"content": " Sen. Omogeni, do you want to contribute to the allegations or is it the next Motion? Okay just one moment. Sen. Githuku go ahead."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I wish to congratulate the Senator of Isiolo County for bringing this very important matter before this House. I also join my colleagues, hon. Senators, in condemning the act done by the governor of Isiolo County who has decided not to appear before the different committees that he has been invited to severally. This House is mandated by the Constitution to take care of devolution and its governments. It is absurd to see that the governor has deliberately decided not to appear before these committees that he has been summoned to so that he can answer to issues affecting the people of Isiolo. I sometimes fail to understand what he is thinking. This is because the moment he starts to avoid Senators who are mandated by the Constitution to take care of devolution, then it shows that he is not even aware of what he is doing. I would wish that this House takes very serious measures against him. The moment we allow this, other governors who have the same attitude like him, will one day also try to avoid the invitation by the Senators. I am of the opinion that this House takes a very serious measure and discipline this governor who has deliberately decided not to appear before various committees of this House. I sit in the Standing Committee on National Cohesion, Equal Opportunity and Regional Integration. I am a witness that we have been inviting him to appear, but he has The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "deliberately refused to appear to answer to issues that affect the people of Isiolo County. Therefore, I support and urge this House to see to it that he serves as an example to other governors who have the same attitude like him."
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