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"content": "It was bought by TM engineering."
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"content": "Is that not a fact? Is that what Jomo is telling us? What the Deputy President is telling us that it was bought by TM engineering and what Jomo is telling us that it was bought by TM engineering factually are the same. Then Jomo brings a new perspective to it, saying that the Deputy President promised him that in the future, he would buy back the hotel. Jomo is saying that when he bought the hotel, the Deputy President told him that he intends to buy it back in the future."
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"content": "Yes."
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"content": "By the way, is there any unlawfulness in a future intent to acquire property?"
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"content": "It points to a scheme to launder and hide the transaction."
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"content": "Mr. Mutuse, let us be basic sensible people. If he wanted to, he would have bought it immediately. Is a promise to buy in the future evidence of a lack of immediate money?"
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"content": "Well, that is a matter of interpretation."
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"content": "You are a lawyer like me and we are good at interpretation. In fact, we are trained in interpretation. I am asking you the question. Is the promise to buy in the future on the face of it--- The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Jomo says they have a secret. We do not want to assume what Jomo is saying. Mr. Jomo is saying in his affidavit that there was a secret arrangement that he covers from the Deputy President, buy the hotel and register it in his company then he refunds the money."
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"content": "Has that refund been done?"
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