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"speaker_name": "Narok North, JP",
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"content": " Thank you for giving me this opportunity to support the nomination of Rehema as the Chairperson of the National Gender and Equality Commission. Commissions perform a lot of good work. The problem is funding. I was the Chairperson of the Anti-Female Genital Mutilation Board (Anti-FGM). We know the commissioners are not supposed to be in their offices, but in the field. The money they are given is not enough to facilitate them to meet the people they are supposed to talk to. It is time we looked at the commissions that are supposed to promote equal opportunities for women. They are not funded well, starting from the Ministry of Gender, Culture, the Arts and Heritage. I met the former Cabinet Secretary for the Ministry of Gender, Culture, the Arts and Heritage, and what she talked about was horrible. She was getting insufficient funding. The same thing will happen to the National Gender and Equality Commission. It is not about the nominated person, because I know she is a performer and she will perform. We do not expect any results if she will not have enough money or resources to enable her to go out. Gender is not about women alone. It is about boys and girls. We are supposed to look at both genders. I remember going to a meeting last week and a young man raised an issue in that meeting and said: “Mama, you have done much for girls. Why do you leave us alone?” I felt it because we are supposed to address the issues affecting both boys and girls. For that reason, I support the Commission and look forward to seeing a day when we will find resources for commissions that are supposed to promote issues of women and men."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Martha Wangari",
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"content": " Thank you. Let us have Hon. Kalasinga."
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. From the onset, I oppose this appointment. I oppose this appointment with serious facts that should be listened to. Even if we are talking about gender, I am not opposing because we have women. I am opposing because in all parts of this country, we have women. We have women in Kitale; we have women in Bungoma; and we have women in Busia. Every time we approve names on the Floor of this House, and I hope this House is listening to us, cumulatively, it seems that some names belong to some sections of this country alone. It is very embarrassing that when we discuss names, we find that some names come from three major tribes. We must name them. It hurts us. We have names even from Bungoma like that of one Madam Connie Wakwabubi, who appeared on the nomination list of UDA as a Senator, but was dropped. Up to now, she is languishing at home. If we have to give names on gender grounds, let us balance them from all over the country as we pass them here. We saw the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) went in one direction. This one is going in one direction. Look at even Mt. Kenya. We see names going in one direction all the time and yet, we also have our 30 per cent agreement for the western part. We have not seen women from the western region. I did not come here to represent Kenya. I came here in Parliament to represent a constituency and a region. That is why I oppose this list. If I have to oppose, I oppose with facts. From tomorrow onwards, as we approve names here, let us see Kenya as a country. Let us draw the map of this country and balance by thinking about every part. I am one disappointed Member of Parliament from Bungoma because I have not seen a name of a woman from our place. We have very bright women who have gone to school properly from our side. I want this one to be a lesson to this House. As much as we engage…"
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"speaker_name": "Kabuchai, FORD-K",
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Homa Bay Town, ODM",
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"content": " On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " There is a point of order."
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"speaker_name": "Kabuchai, FORD-K",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Majimbo Kalasinga",
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"content": " Accepted, but mark my time."
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"content": " It is not for you to accept, Hon. Kalasinga. There is a point of order from Hon. Kaluma."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, under the Constitution, regional and ethnic balance of commissions is determined when we look at all the commissions cumulatively. Is Hon. Majimbo Kalasinga in order to determine regional balance as particularly being representation of people of his ethnic community based on a single commission in which only two members are being approved? If we look at the appointments that we passed before, who is Jacqueline Mwenesi? Unless this is justified and substantiated, it should be withdrawn. It should be looked at cumulatively."
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"content": " It is not you to reply, Hon. Kalasinga. You had very few seconds remaining. You have made very serious accusations. Hon. Kalasinga, take your seat. I will give you your time. Just hold it. There is already a point of order that has already been raised by Hon. Kaluma. What I will ask Hon. Kalasinga to do is a statement of facts. You said you are going to table facts. As has been said by Hon. Kaluma, two names cannot represent 47 counties. It will have to be factual and you owe that responsibility to the House."
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