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"content": "No. Let us hear Dr. Pukose now."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, when Hon. Kaluma brought this issue, initially, we thought we could do it under the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Council. After further consultations between the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Council, the Ministry and me, we felt that we should establish a directorate. The Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Council will still have a function in registration and licensing of facilities, and even determining the qualifications of who runs them - whether it is an embryologist or any other professional."
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"content": "I urge Hon. Kaluma to drop the amendment so that we can retain the Committee’s amendment. The clause will remain the way it is in the Bill. It says that we need to have a directorate in the Ministry of Health that is solely responsible for Assisted Reproductive Technology. It is because this is a specialised area. There is nothing wrong with having a directorate that deals with Assisted Reproductive Technology. It does not incur an extra cost. It is still a re-organisation of the Ministry."
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"content": " We are closing ranks, Hon. Kaluma."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, I appeared before the Committee. As Hon. Millie has confirmed, I persuaded all of us who were before the Committee during harmonisation on the need not to establish a directorate to deal with matters whose mandates are already given by the Medical Practitioners and Dentists Act. I have given good reasons for it. I am still not persuaded. Before the Chairperson spoke, I was already thinking of an amendment instead of a total deletion of Clause 5, to say that the Kenya Medication Practitioners and Dentists Council (KMPDC) shall establish a secretariat known as Assisted Reproductive Technology Secretariat. That way, it will flow. When we start creating a directorate for every facet of health, you can imagine how many we shall establish. They also have ramifications on the finances of the State. Beyond that, my fear about establishing a whole directorate is that if you see the things being mandated not only as matters under the remit of KPMD, we will also be creating a structure for commercial surrogacy which we have already prohibited. Looking at all jurisdictions where altruistic surrogacy is permitted… I appeared before the Committee with an outline in terms of assisted reproduction across the world. Commercial surrogacy is prohibited because of that convention I read. They do not prohibit words like “directorate” or “commissioning parent”. I think I persuaded the Committee on this because it brings the idea of commercialisation. However, let us have a secretariat that licenses practitioners and sets guidelines that we are talking about here. It should establish, with clarity, the procedure for licensing and supervision of clinics within the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Council. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman."
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"content": " On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairman."
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"content": " What is your point of order, Hon. Millie, and we are constrained of time."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I think we need to be clear that in the earlier amendment, we outlawed commercial"
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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