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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. My concern is on this 10 per centum that is proposed in the amendment. The Chairperson has rightly pointed out that this might have to be one of the issues that go for mediation. I would like him to reconsider it. I believe this grant was going to help in development especially in coffee growing areas. The Senate in its wisdom passed it to be at 25 per cent, which the Chairperson considers a high figure. The Chairperson could consider meeting the Senate proposal half way and probably reduce it to about 15 per cent or thereabout rather than lowering it to 10 per cent. This is a conditional grant that can do a lot for coffee farmers in coffee growing counties."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Hon. Chepkonga. You can make the comments brief."
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"content": " Thank you very much Hon. Temporary Chairlady. As far as I am concerned, the per centum is the 2 per cent that has been deducted. So, Members should not assume that it is a lot of money. It is a minimal amount of money. Secondly, when we talk about coffee growing areas, there is no county that has been barred from attempting to grow coffee. For instance, Uasin Gishu County has not been a coffee growing area, but because of attempts to grow it, we have now become a coffee growing area. Nothing will prevent Hon. Oundo from growing coffee. He can come to my farm and I introduce him to coffee farming. I can give him some seedlings for free, so that he can become a coffee farmer and his county becomes a coffee growing county even if he will have only three seedlings. So, I support the amendment by the Chairperson."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): The last comment, Hon. Members, will be from Hon. Wamuchomba, and then we will put the Question."
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"content": " Thank you."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Hon. Members, as you comment, please, bear in mind that it is 10 per cent of the 2 per cent."
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"content": " Yes, we understand it is 10 per cent of the 2 per cent. But I have a problem with any money going to the county. I want to cite an example of tea farmers because they have gone through the pain that we are just about to expose coffee farmers to. When cess money used to go to the tea factories in the name of repairing roads, farmers used to maintain their own roads. But when that money was diverted back to the counties, the cess roads were neglected and right now farmers are struggling because counties pick the money, but they do not make roads. If we agree that we are going to give counties money that is supposed to be for farmers in any way, the counties will never give back that money to the farmers. So, for me, any other remission is okay, but not that one for the counties."
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"speaker_name": "Githunguri, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Gathoni Wamuchomba",
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "They have already collected enough levies through pulping licensing, permits, warehousing and any other activity, but when it comes to the revenues of the farmers, I have an objection."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Hon. Chairperson, you will be the last one."
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