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"content": " Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for this chance. I want to comment on the Statement by the Senator for Meru, the Deputy Speaker, Sen. Kathuri on this alleged mismanagement of the University of Nairobi. I do not know much about this University simply because of the very fact that I do not understand how you can study at a University next to a very busy highway. How will you concentrate? However, that is beside the point. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the most important thing that I wanted to raise about this Statement --- I do not know why I am being distracted. I am struggling to make a ---"
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"content": " Proceed."
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"content": " Thank you for protecting me. I thought what I said is a Statement of fact about where that University is located. Yesterday, the President said there is a bad spirit in the country of opposing everything. I think there is another bad spirit of everybody trying to do everybody's job but their own. This Statement alleges that the University Council chairperson, has left his responsibilities as a chairperson of the Council and is now busy executing the executive role that is a preserve of the Vice-Chancellor. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "I do hope that the Committee on Education can quickly find out what the facts are in this particular case. I have heard this conversation from very reliable sources, including people that I hold in extremely high regard. As they say, if you hear it repeated more than once and perhaps from very credible sources, then chances are that there is truth in what is being said. I hope our Committee on Education committee can interfere while there is still time before University of Nairobi goes the way of many other public universities that have gone down the drain because of wrangles at the leadership level. It will be extremely unfortunate if the Senate of this country just watches idly as such a great institution goes down. I am saying everybody now has a spirit of trying to do everyone's job is because in the last few days, I have seen many people including the church speak on many things in this country. They are castigating us asking why as Parliament, why are you hurrying up legislations and so on and so forth. Sometimes I wonder what I am supposed to do. Kenya is a multi-party democracy. For example, I campaigned alongside the President. He came to the county where I represent in this House. There are promises that we made to those people and we were allocated responsibilities. The President was to lead the Executive and I was to represent their interest here in Parliament. If there is legislation that has been brought before this House and it agrees with the manifesto upon which our party campaigned on, should I delay or expedite that legislation? Mr. Speaker, Sir, that explains part of what I am saying ails our country; where you find people have become experts in everything. You want to be an expert in health matters, education policy and comment on the legislature. Mr. Speaker, Sir, you want to say absolutely nothing about the deteriorating standards of religious practices in the country, including institutions that are cropping up and taking advantage of innocent civilians. I do not think there has ever been a time where innocent citizens have been conned by fake churches and fake pastors such as this particular time. Sen. Mungatana came under a lot of criticism because of the report he tabled here on their findings of Shakahola massacre. I remember him being dressed down at a particular function somewhere in Kiambu and told to concentrate on his work as a legislator, but not to tell them how to manage church affairs. I thought that was a fair request because Sen. Mungatana is least qualified to address the church on how to run their affairs, but does the same pass to them and are they experts in everything? I am talking about those who are lecturing everybody else, but themselves on how to take their responsibilities. There is a new spring of democracy or definition in the country. That is why I agree with Sen. Omtatah. I am proud of him because he has openly declared and said that since he does not agree with the policies of the Kenya Kwanza Administration and thinks he can do a better job than President William Ruto, he wants to mount a presidential campaign. That is how democracy works. If you feel that you can offer better solutions to challenges facing Kenyans, then offer yourself for leadership. Go around the country and put out a manifesto like Sen. Omtatah has done. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "The challenge we have is that we have experts from all over. There are people who want to tell you how to run everything, yet the only thing they have ever run in their life is a social media account. However, they are so loud and have an opinion of what should and what should not be done."
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"content": "Congratulations, Sen. Omtatah. I look forward to listening to your manifesto and ideas, so that you tell us how you will move the country forward at the right time when the opportunity presents itself and Kenyans agree with you. We will grant you the opportunity and ask you to do better than those who were there before you. However, we cannot redefine democracy where at every twist and turn you want to reinvent and ensure that in every decision being made, you have to say something or do not agree. That is not democracy. Democracy is simply the fact that because all of us can never agree on the same idea, we allow the minority to have their say, but eventually the majority will have their way. That is how a country functions."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I expect that Members of our Committee on Education will guide us with the facts, so that we establish what is ailing this institution before it is too late. I thank you."
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"content": " That brings us to the end of the comments session. I now call upon the Chairperson of the Committee on Finance and Budget to lay the Paper. Had you laid the Paper?"
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"content": "Yes, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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"content": " Okay. You may now proceed to give the Notice of Motion."
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