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"content": "(Resumption of debate interrupted on 20.2.2025)"
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"content": "Leader of the Majority Party."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. In replying, allow me to thank all the Members. You and I were away on Thursday afternoon, but I watched online as this Bill was debated. We must thank the Parliamentary Service Commission for The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "making it possible for us to follow what is happening in the House even when we are out of the Chamber and on the roads. I must express my gratitude to the many Members who contributed to this Bill. I appreciate the central role that culture plays in an African society like ours. Even with the emerging trends and transformative things happening within the technology space, many Kenyans, and indeed many Members who represent them, still appreciate the central role that culture plays in the lives of our people and seek to preserve it. I thank the Ministry and the State Department for Culture and Heritage for drafting this Bill, seeking to, among other things, ensure that we register issues that touch on culture and alienate the roles of the two levels of Government: the National Government and the county governments. More importantly, the Bill provides for the management of culture in Kenya. As I said, it alienates the functions of the two levels of Government: National Government and county governments. It also provides for the recognition and promotion of cultural expressions and indigenous technologies by public entities – which did not happen in the past. It also protects our cultural heritage, expressions and endangered communities and cultures. I was particularly interested in seeing how the Maa Members of Parliament or those Members of Parliament who represent the Maa communities would contribute to this debate. I am glad because a number of them contributed. The Maa culture has been abused over the years. I can see Hon. Lenguris because I know she is very passionate about protecting the Samburu cultural practices. It is not only the Maa community where you find Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah dressed in a Moran Shuka, donning the Moran's hair and pretending to jump like a Moran. Many people often make money out of other people's cultural practices."
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"content": "Leader of the Majority Party, you may be interested to know that we went to London—Hon. Ng’elechei was in that delegation—for the 75th Anniversary of the Commonwealth. Some very stocky Nigerians were brought and introduced as Maasai dancers. To pretend to be Maasais is distorting Kenya's culture. You should call upon our missions to know who represents our culture out there."
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"content": " Precisely. You narrated that story at another forum—the House Business Committee. It is indeed true that one of the most abused cultural practices of Kenya is the Maasai culture. You can imagine Nigerians pretending to be Maasais in London. It is, therefore, important to have such cultures and certain cultural practices registered so that the proper owners are known."
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"content": "To make it worse, they are paid for their pretence."
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"content": " When you register your cultural practices—for instance, the Maa Community registering their Maasai dances and cultural practices—and anybody uses them, they have to pay for them. Otherwise, you have seen the brand and property rights of things like the Kikoi that were made largely by Kenyans, and some Tanzanians are foreigners today. I am being told that it is an American who patented it. Kikoi is a Swahili name. These are some of the losses that we have been making."
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"content": "We must also protect our culture from abuse by ourselves. Politicians also abuse our cultural practices for the sake of politics. At times, you see people trying to mobilise others mainly based on their ethnicity but hiding behind culture. We must be in a position where both the county governments and the national Government can protect cultural practices from political abuse. You also see some leaders or people who pretend to be leaders abuse our cultures. We saw the Governor of Nyeri recently insult an entire community. It is unfortunate that a whole Governor insults an entire Maa community by claiming they do not wear either The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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