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"speaker_name": "Kikuyu, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah",
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"content": "If we have National Government Roads Class A, let us know this is NGA. If we have a county government road, let it be CG Class D, A or B. We should name those roads so that these Members of Parliament are not bashed by their constituents because we are the ones they are close to. They keep bashing Members of Parliament over roads that do not concern them because they have no budgets for them. The governors who have money for maintaining these roads are busy buying chicks, maize flour and ndengu to give as freebies to constituents to excite them for political expediency. It is high time they are called out. Kenyans must begin reading the Controller of Budget reports to see that counties are not devoting money to development. That is why we honestly cannot satisfy their insatiable greed for more money to steal. We must maintain our position to offer meaningful oversight over KeRRA, KURA and Kenya National Highways Authority (KeNHA) to deliver on maintenance and construction of roads. They assume that this money is managed by Members of Parliament. None of these 290 Members of Parliament representing constituencies, 47 women or 12 nominated Members manage this money. It is managed through the regional offices of KeRRA, under the Director- Generals of KeRRA and KURA. Members of Parliament do not come near it. They do not even sit in the procurement committees. Our only interest is proper and meaningful oversight for delivery of services to Kenyans. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Kikuyu, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah",
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"content": "The others are only bothered about what they will steal. They want to steal from hospitals. They have looted hospitals, water projects and now they are after roads. Honestly, who will satisfy their insatiable greed? We cannot, and we will not satisfy them by processing the County Governments Additional Allocations Bill, with RMLF included. I hope the Leader of the Majority Party in the Senate has heard me. Thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": "Leader of the Minority Party."
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"speaker_name": "Suna East, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Junet Mohamed",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I just want to add a few things to what the Leader of the Majority Party has said. This issue of RMLF has been on this Floor now for some time, since last Parliament. I have realised there is a systematic programme going on in this country to disconnect Members of this House from the public completely. I do not know where that plan is hatched. I do not know whether it is in the Executive, Judiciary or somewhere else. There is a serious plan to disconnect Members of Parliament, especially Members of the National Assembly, from the public. People tell me that it is not my work to bring development to the people. If I cannot bring development to them, what is the constitutional requirement of representation? You represent people so that you can speak on their behalf on the Floor of the House to get resources for them, if I understand it well. This is something that this House will not accept. Look at what is happening in the counties. We are not against devolution. We support it completely. However, we have to re-analyse, since the last 10 or 12 years, whether it has worked for this country. The only thing we see in it are conferences every year that show us beans, ndengu, carrots, cucumber and cassavas grown in our areas. Those things have been happening since Independence. My grandmother has been growing cassavas since Kenya became independent. That is what you are shown in devolution conferences. There is nothing serious that has happened since devolution came into place. Truth must be said. We must be truthful to the people."
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"content": "(Loud consultations)"
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"speaker_name": "Suna East, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Junet Mohamed",
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"content": "Look at the amount of money that has been devolved in this country. We have devolved trillions of shillings, since devolution came into place. However, there is completely nothing to show for it. Let us be honest to Kenyans. We do not want to describe them as devolved corruption. Hon. Speaker, can we have order here? People are preoccupied with the little money that is devolved through NG-CDF and RMLF. They do not take note of the billions of shillings that are devolved every financial year. Counties get their money. They are never in arrears. Even if they are in arrears, it is only for one month or two months, and in the end the money goes down to the ground. There are counties that are holding billions of shillings in their Central Bank of Kenya accounts. I was reading in the newspaper the other day that there are counties that have not spent Ksh48 billion. It is lying idle in their accounts, but they are still demanding for more money. They are saying the National Government has not devolved money. Lastly, these people who call themselves KeRRA and KURA here in Nairobi must know that these are organs of national Government. They are not part of county governments. They are overseen by this House. The Director-General of KERRA is a joker. It is true. He thinks that he is supposed to report to counties. Which governor or county government oversees him? That man must be dragged to this House under a Committee of the House. He must be told, in no certain terms, that he is supposed to report to the National Assembly. He thinks that he is supposed to work with county governments. Which county government gives him money? The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Suna East, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Junet Mohamed",
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"content": "Hon. Speaker, you can go round to every constituency today, and we will take you round. The roads that are maintained by RMLF, through the constituency, are known. In every constituency, they are not even more than four or five. Majority of the roads are classified as county roads. All of them are in pathetic condition. They are asking for RMLF for the constituency. The ones for the constituency are well-maintained. The national Government is trying its best to tarmac majority of the county roads. We cannot take this thing lying down anymore. We will put our foot down. We are tired of these shenanigans of counties and the judiciary saying all the time that NG-CDF is unconstitutional. These people are enjoying their monies. They are not delivering any services to the public. The people who are supposed to do that work are being curtailed. This matter must come to an end. As Leader of the Majority Party has said, we will pass the County Governments Additional Allocations Bill. It has the extra money we are giving them, without RMLF. If they do not want money, the Bill will be stuck here for good. You can continue with the one that you were given at the beginning of the year. The Council of Governors should not joke with Members of Parliament. They were elected like the way they were elected. You have votes. We got votes the same way you got yours. Some of you got votes through waves. When the Constitution 2010 was being formulated, some people said that gubernatorial positions should be appointive. We can amend the Constitution, if need be."
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"content": "(Laughter)"
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"speaker_name": "Suna East, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Junet Mohamed",
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"content": "In conclusion, let us respect everyone's work, as enshrined in the Constitution and laws. We must make sure that we are not made like we are not supposed to bring any development to our constituents. A governor told me on my face that my work is representation and oversight. That, we just go to make noise in Parliament and that is all; we do not have any other work. I told him when we will be processing the Division of Revenue Bill, we will give them very little money if he continues to talk like that. Then, he will realise the power that has been given to the National Assembly by the Constitution."
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