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"content": " Hon. Mutuse, were you on this side?"
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"content": "Okay. I thought you wanted to cross directly. If you intend to cross the Floor, you have to do the right thing."
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, I was saying that the establishment of a corporation to regulate the gold business is very important. As you may know, gold business is an international trade and the international standards should be assimilated in the most appropriate way. Appropriate licences should be given and verified. Verification of the licences is critical. There are areas in Africa where gold is in plenty but the consequences of mining that gold are dire. It can be war gold or black gold. Many people have lost their lives in the process of mining and selling gold. Selling gold can facilitate trade wars and armed dealings. The corporation will institute rules and regulations, regulate acquisition of licences, ensure international accreditation is well facilitated, regulate how the gold tests and gold grading will be done, and regulate the purification, smelting and refining of gold. It will also take care of gold transportation. It will be one of the most critical institutions that will ensure we have more investors in this trade in Kenya. I listened to the former Deputy President of the Republic of Kenya mention that President William Ruto is in gold business with one of the leaders in Sudan. That was a reckless statement from the former Deputy President. Now that we are discussing about gold dealings, it is important to mention that this is an international trade with credible traders. It is high time that Kenya, through the National Assembly, ensures we have a properly regulated gold business. I support the Bill because it is well drafted. However, we will need to look at the other minerals like mica and coltan in Mbeere. We have aquamarine, bismuth, iron and copper in Mbeere. If this National Assembly can come up with a law regulating all these minerals so that we take advantage of them as a nation, we can be in a position to repay some of the debts killing the economy of the Republic of Kenya. I support. Thank you."
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"content": " Hon. John Waluke."
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me a chance to contribute to this very important Bill. Our Government should take serious measures to make sure that this Bill succeeds. I urge the House to pass it. I support this Bill and thank the Member for Ikolomani, Hon. Bernard Shinali, for moving it. It is on time, because our country needs to grow economically. This Bill can grow the economy of this country. I am a proud Kenyan to say that our country has a lot of minerals, including natural minerals like oil. I used to be in the military and we used to keep peace for visitors who came to survey for oil in this country. Those days, too many areas were discovered to have oil: Pokot, Marsabit, Baringo, Moyale and even in the ocean. Because of lack of adequate security, we are lucky that oil comes from the Arab The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "countries. If we drill enough oil, the Arab countries will have a problem with the amount of oil in their area, because we are in the lower side. I keep asking myself about the cartels who buy gold from our miners. Who are the cartels who buy the gold that miners in this country struggle to get? Miners even die in the mining holes. Where is the gold sold? This country could be rich. An Indian used to buy gold, but he moved from this country to Nigeria. The Government should be serious by ensuring that it controls and regulates the people who get licences to mine such an important mineral like gold, and other minerals. We are aware that previously, Mr Pattni, used to trade in gold. However, currently, we do not know who is into that business. This is the question I keep asking myself – who are the gold traders in the country? There are people who get licences behind the Government's back. Therefore, the Government should be very strict. Hon. Shinali invited us to witness the commissioning of a Chinese company that will engage in this mining business. I attended, saw some machines and was very happy that this gold will help our country. Hon. Temporary Speaker, with those few remarks, I support this Bill. Thank you."
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"content": " Hon. Stephen Mogaka."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity to also contribute. I also thank the sponsor of this Bill for this piece of legislation that will help regulate a hitherto unregulated industry. Gold mining in this country has been majorly done by individual experts who know how to identify gold. However, the beneficiaries are always people who are not directly involved in the search, mining, identification and production of this gold."
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