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"content": "Secretary, is a 2019 Bill. If you look at the Kshs1.5 billion that KPC says is a debt owed by Nairobi, those debts precede that law. So, how can you tell us that in 2017 we did not owe Nairobi money for wayleaves? A final appeal on behalf of the people of Nairobi. The national Government institutions in Nairobi have refused to pay rates. Unfortunately, one of those institutions is this House; the Senate and the National Assembly; Parliament as an institution. All these buildings here in Parliament Square and the Government Square have refused to pay Nairobians rates. As we speak, it is over Kshs100 billion that we are owed as Nairobians for unpaid rates by the national Governments. If you gave us that money, we would be able to do a light rail, the equivalent of the one that was done in Addis Ababa, so that all of you can come to work without having to sit in traffic. I can assure you, we will make a tunnel stop here so that we drop you at work. You do not have to sit in traffic. So, I am beseeching you and the entire Senate, please, join Nairobi in asking the national Government to pay us this money. I thank you."
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"content": " Matters have been raised this afternoon by colleagues and have been directed to the Committees. Allow me to perhaps very quickly comment on two of them. One is on the security situation in Laikipia. I continue to empathise with Kenyans who, out of challenges of security, lose their property. However, because it is not in the traditional categorisation of what property is, it is not a building or a car or parcel of land in a prime location in this city, people do not treat it with the seriousness that it deserves. Many times, when you see Senators bring Statements that a family has been robbed of their cattle, it is, most of the time, their only source of livelihood. Therefore, it ought to be treated with the same seriousness as you would if today you were told that somebody had walked into someone's house or an apartment here in Nairobi and evicted them. Therefore, I want to appreciate that Sen. Kinyua continues to speak on behalf of the people of Ol Moran Ward in Laikipia County. This is not the first time that this matter has come to the Senate. Therefore, I hope that the new Vice-Chairperson of the Committee, who is seated very comfortably in the House this afternoon, is following this conversation so that they treat it with the urgency that it deserves, to ensure that Mr. Francis Ndukuyi and Mr. Kipruto are properly reconnected with their animals and are compensated. I also appreciate the good work as reported in this Statement that is being done by the National Police Reservists (NPR). Many times, there has been a debate in this country by the usual ignorant gang who speak out of abundance of ignorance on issues that they completely know nothing about. They insist that NPRs are a militia. You have seen from the Statement of Sen. Kinyua that it is actually the NPRs that led the recovery of these animals and continue to keep certain parts of this country safe. Therefore, I want to continue stamping my voice, like I did when that matter first came to this House in 2018. The Government must continue to keep that service of NPRs The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "working in the difficult parts of this country where you would otherwise struggle to keep police officers. Last thing, is on the Statement by Sen. Jackson Mandago on wheat importation into the country. We spoke about this last week and I said, I would wish to understand what is it that makes these millers want to ignore the wheat that has been produced locally here by our farmers. Unfortunately---"
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"content": " The Senate Majority Leader, do not comment on the Statement that has been read out by Sen. Nyutu. He was holding brief for Sen. Murango, and he wrongly read a Statement meant for Sen. Mandago. So, that Statement remains deferred. It will be read by Sen. Mandago when he is in the House. So, at that appropriate time, you will make your comments on that particular Statement."
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"content": " Okay, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am properly guided. I yield the Floor then to other Senators."
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"content": " Thank you. Sen. Ledama."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to make some comments and provide some useful information to two Statements. One is a Statement read by Sen. Essie Okenyuri. The clashes on the border of Narok and Kisii is historical. The problem started. This has got nothing to do with cattle rustling. It has everything to do with land. Way back, there was a gentleman by the name of Oringo from the Kisi community who fundraised a lot of money to buy Maasai land, about 10 kilometres from Kisii border, all the way to Kilgoris Town. This gentleman disappeared with the money. Therefore, the land remained owned by the Maasai community. There is also a case in court where the Luo community of Awendo took the matter to court because of a place called Oloontare. This is a place where the late President Daniel arap Moi used to cultivate. It is where there is plenty of good land that the Maasai use. The gentleman who went to court from Awendo lost that case from Nairobi. That case has been transferred to Kisumu. This is an issue that these three communities must sit down and agree on because the land belongs to the Maasai community. The Kisi community wanted to buy that land. The Luo community on the Awendo side also want to take this part called Oloontare. This is a challenge. This is an issue that we have to ask ourselves whether we need to be changing laws when it comes to the issue of acquisition of land. It is a big crisis. This issue where people are pretending that they are going into some land because they are following their cows which were stolen, and then they cause people to be killed-- - I know this weekend two people from my county of Narok were killed by people who came from the neighbouring counties. This is a land crisis. This is an issue where people want to take land by force. If there is pressure for one community in this country to get land, that is not our problem. That is a problem of the national Government. We have so much land in this country, which is not occupied by anybody. Those people can migrate and move to that part. However, forcing and moving people in this boundary called Oloontare and also allowing land brokers to bring conflict between three communities, should not be tolerated. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "When the Committee is investigating, let us not go to petty things like stealing a cow. Let us look at the problem. What is causing the Kisii community or the Luo community in Awendo to move to Narok County to claim land which they were conned by this gentleman called Oringo? In fact, the problem is this, and I want to tell my sister, Esther, there is a community called the Pusunya. The Pusunya community are cousins of the Kuria and Kisii communities. This Pusunya community are the ones who are trying to say we need this land. They are the ones who donated money and participated in this fundraiser by this fellow called Oringo. Thus, the problem is not the Maasai nor the Kisii. The problem is the brokers who got the money and disappeared with the money. This issue of land is something that we must resolve for boundary disputes. Secondly, it is about time that we change the law, since the issue raised by Sen. Cherarkey on the issue of electricity has got to do with the law. Section 33 of the Energy Act, 2019 bars public entities from charging Kenya Power way leaves for its network. The law further says that the entity can only demand the fees with approval from the Cabinet Secretary for Energy. Now, Sen. Sifuna said, how do you expect the Cabinet Secretary for Energy to say, “Nairobi City County, you can charge Kenya Power, yet, Kenya Power is one of its State Department?” The issue here is that we need to change the law. I propose that we change two laws. One, the law that has to do with land on boundaries. Instead of selling land in the boundaries of counties, let us propose that the communities along those boundaries can lease this land out to people, so that land remains historically to be owned by the community which is domiciled in that area. Two, we need to change Section 33 of the Energy Act. If, to be honest, Nairobi City County is owed billions by Kenya Power, and it wants to be paid for the electricity of streetlights, which to me I believe is a security issue, the national Government has got now to decide. The Ministy of Interior and National Administration is allocated a lot of money together with the Executive. I do not think the Executive will feel the pinch if they decide that they will no longer drink tea or they we will never entertain people, but we will just pay for the street lighting. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am aware that there is a programme, which is a Public-Private Partnership (PPP) programne, that is budgeted to spend about Kshs10 billion to deal with this issue of streetlights. Honestly, for every county, and it is not only Nairobi, in my own village of Eor ekule in Narok County, we oftenly find the streetlights are off and it is an insecurity issue. When you ask the community there, they say, they have asked Kenya Power to restore the security lights and they say the bill has not been paid by the county government. So, who is going to pay? In fact, one young boy from Eor ekule asked me: “Senator, who is going to pay for this?” We are afraid of even walking at night. We walk from our technical college, Masaai Technical College, a Technical and Vocational Education and Training (TVET) institution, all the way to the centre at night after prep, because there is not enough accommodation and there are no streetlights.” My colleagues, I want to beseech you, that instead of just looking at the top layer, let us dig inside to find out what the problems are. Let us change the laws, so that we can The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "ensure that the time that God will give us to live on earth, we can live peacefully. Additionally, we can also be able to have the services which other countries have for free. If you go to Dubai, I do not think there is a time that the local authority or the power company in Dubai will decide to shut off power, or the local authority will decide to go and dump garbage outside the offices of another department. These are things that require us to be disciplined and mature enough to sit down and have a conversation. I look forward to the time that we will engage both Nairobi County and Kenya Power, so that we can have a lasting solution to these problems. Otherwise, we will continue going around in circles. When the Committee on Land and Natural Resources or the Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations looks at this statement brought by Sen. Okenyuri, let us dig deeper to be able to understand historical challenges. It is the same thing in Laikipia. Thank you."
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