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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. If you look at the First Schedule to the Bill, you will see that many counties are not receiving any allocation while others are receiving."
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"content": " What is your point of order, Deputy Leader of the Majority Party?"
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, in terms of court fines, certain counties have established courts. Court fines are generated from the county governments’ courts. The county governments have established their own courts. There is a county court at Treasury Square in Mombasa County. Fines that are generated from the county courts should be disbursed and used by the county. My Kilifi County set up its courts the other day. Therefore, they cannot get money because they have not generated any court fines. Some counties have generated revenue through court fines while others have not. That money belongs to the counties that have generated revenue through court fines. We are now providing a framework for the disbursement of court fines money to the counties so that they can use the money. If your county government does not have a court, tell your governor to establish one and ensure that many boda-boda operators and traders who breach the county by-laws are charged, tried and fined so that the county government can get court fines money."
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"content": " We are together, Deputy Leader of the Majority Party. That is what I was talking about. Before the advent of devolution, there were municipal courts all over. They should be all over again, so that they help to generate court fines for the counties that may not have such courts for now."
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"content": " Order, Deputy Leader of Majority Party. That is not how the House runs. Proceed, Hon. Ochanda."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, that is the explanation that you wanted me to bring out. I am with Hon. Baya on that explanation. Court fines have not been factored in certain counties because the municipal courts that were previously in those counties are no longer functional. If they are, they are all under the central Judiciary. That means the counties are being denied a source of revenue in terms of fines, which should form part of their local revenue. That is exactly what I was talking about. If you looked at it from that angle, no county shouldt receive an allocation because most towns have municipal courts, and all those towns are now under the county governments."
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"content": "We should ensure that additional grants absolve us from annual disputes in terms of vertical revenue allocation."
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"content": "With those few remarks, I support the Bill."
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