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"content": "Once passed, this Bill will help our community, and also support our people. With good oversight and the governors being accountable, we will help this country. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I support."
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"content": " Hon. Catherine Omanyo, Member of Parliament for Busia County."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": "I support this Bill. It is long overdue. The counties are suffocating with so much baggage. I cannot even start counting. If they are given additional funds, I just pray that this time round, anything that is budgeted and programmed is done exactly how the budget intended. I fail to understand why we have pending bills, yet there was a budget for it, that was approved. If the money comes even after delays, then every detail on the budget should be ticked. I wonder why we have pending bills. It has become the excuse for all counties on why things are at a snail's speed. We need to strengthen our control mechanisms and accountability. We should also look into eliminating wastage. It is just too much. In Busia County, once these funds are allocated, we will no longer have the problems of water shortages in places like Teso North where women and children move to Bungoma County to seek for this commodity. They walk miles, far away searching for a river. We have a hard pan on the northern side of Teso North. Even if you drill a borehole, you will not get water. We have Malakisi River that has enough water and this money can be used to pipe water into homes. It is possible. How do developed nations come into play when it comes to things like these? It is by piping water. Water from Malakisi and across the sub-county, including the nearest sub-counties should be treated and piped. If we started piping bit by bit into homes, by the end of five years, all homes in my county will be receiving clean and safe water. We have CHVs who have been doing a lot including assisting doctors and nurses. Places that doctors have not reached, these CHVs have. They understand every home that needs attention, be it in terms of health or other counselling issues. They step in to help where the doctors cannot. We have few doctors in the county. You can find that one psychiatrist is handling over 400 cases. We cannot lie to ourselves that one psychiatrist can handle all those cases. These CHVs need to be supported. They are demoralised by not being supported. They are not even remunerated. I am praying that when this money hits the accounts in the counties, those who have been there volunteering, will benefit. I see most of them carrying books because they do not have phones or laptops and are not trained on how to keep data. They register a name physically, the way class teachers used to do before the era of computers. They know well those who need attention with their challenges, both physically and mentally. I hope when these funds hit the accounts, volunteers who have been there will not be left aside, just because money has surfaced; that other people who have no clue, will get it. All the CHVs know each other and know their own caucus across the county. Those are the people who ought to be the beneficiaries. If you motivate such people, a lot of gaps will be filled. Just as I mentioned, not all doctors and nurses will get into remote areas to help out with medication and counselling. Besides the CHVs and water, there is the health sector. Just the other day, we had a terrible accident. Kolanya Boys, a school that is well known, was involved in an accident. Students were rushed to a small hospital called Kocholia Sub-County Hospital and unfortunately, there were no beds and medicine. The basic equipment that a normal hospital has, was lacking. The boys were thrown on the floor like logs. When this money is added, all the dispensaries however small from the sub-counties to the referral hospitals in the counties, must be well equipped. Doctors, nurses, clinical officers and anyone in the medical field should be paid on time. If you delay remuneration for anybody, be it the president or the village elder, you have The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "slowed work. They also have needs. They are parents and guardians taking care of many other people. For anybody to give their services adequately, they need to be paid on time all the time. We also have the court fines under the pending bills. It is crazy. You can get one county that has such bills running into billions. The lawyers are fatter than the workers in the counties. They get more money than the real workers in the counties. Go to any county now and ask the workers when they last received their salaries. It is frustrating that a man wakes up every day to go to work. He has a good wife and children who see him in a suit, leaving for work each day, yet, they are unable to pay school fees. The children have even been chased from school because their fathers, who purport to be working, have nothing to show that they earn a salary. The counties need support. We should not kill devolution. Accountability is paramount. We want our counties to look like cities. The President is one for the country, but in the counties, our ‘president’ is the governor. We should reach a town and note the difference. If you come to my town, Busia, after 6.00 p.m., you will find that even the streetlights are not working, and when you move out of the town, you find that most of the roads are not tarmacked. Whenever there is rain, it is a tall order to make it home safely. That is why we have too many accidents every now and then. I support this Bill, hoping that when we finally have more money allocated to the counties, we will cajole our governors to spend every dime accountably. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " Hon. Joseph Kahangara."
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"speaker_name": "Lari, UDA",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for giving me an opportunity to also add my voice to the County Governments Additional Allocations Bill. From the outset, I am in support of this Bill. Devolution was brought about so that it can bring funds closer to the people. That way, people do not have to come to Nairobi, the central government, looking for funding. On this particular one of the additional funds, I am in support of the CAIPs. When we were campaigning, this was one of the agenda items; that we are going to have industrial parks in every county which are meant to help on issues of value addition. That whatever we are producing in our farms, we are able to add value and they will now get into the market, probably stay longer and we can reach out to more markets. Therefore, I am in support. On the CHPs, they were also supposed to be paid by the county governments. Remember CHPs are visiting our homes and offering services which our people would actually not reach other than when they go to hospitals or dispensaries. Now that half of their pay has been coming from the national and county governments, the national Government has been remitting their money but county governments are not paying them. Because of the kind of work they are doing, and I know that these people have been suffering while offering very good services to people right in our homesteads, I support the County Governments Additional Allocations Bill. However, Hon. Temporary Speaker, as I said, devolution was to bring funds closer to the people, I would also say that we have a problem with our counties, governors and usage of the funds that are given to our counties. You will find that the county government workers are staying for months without getting their salaries. We have very many pending bills. In the last ten years that we have had devolution, there are pending bills. Some people have died while others have had their properties auctioned by banks simply because they work for county governments and they have not been able to pay them up to date. This shows that the kind of work the county governments are doing by giving contracts when they do not have funds, is something that we might call out governors, and tell them that it must come to an end."
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"content": "Remember in devolution, we have the functions which are shared between the national Government and the county governments. Among them is the provision of water in our areas. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "For example, in my area and Kiambu County for that matter, you will find that for ten years, there is no single water project that has been done by the county government and yet it is getting money for this particular project. In Kiambu, we have very many roads which are under the county government, but today you will find the governor distributing chicks, piglets and very many other things. Our people can afford to buy chicks for themselves. We are supposed to fix the roads so that they are able to get their produce to the market, but this is not happening. We want to call out the governors and tell them that there is work that is cut out for them, and it is exactly what we expect them to do. The Government brought in subsidised fertiliser. Initially, it was under the National Cereals and Produce Board (NCPB). Again, it has been taken to the county governments. Today, my people are going to Naivasha to get fertiliser because the county government is unable to get it to them. But the governor is going round giving people handouts, and not really, looking at the issues that concern the citizens. We do not have medicine in our dispensaries that were put up using NG-CDF. Today, our people have to go to private hospitals and chemists to buy medicines because we do not have them in our hospitals."
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"content": "As I wind up, because I can see that time is running out, let me also say that we have seen the kind of work that has been done in our constituencies since NG-CDF was introduced in this country. I will give an example of Kiambu County, where the 12 constituencies in total, are getting about Ksh2 billion per year. Our county government is getting Ksh15 billion from the central kitty. If you go to every village, there is a project of NG-CDF. You can go to some places where there is no project that has been done in the whole ward for the last two years. If you look at some wards, you will find that nothing has been done by these counties for the last ten years. We, therefore, must tell the governors that we are giving them the money but it should be used prudently. As a country, moving forward, we have to look at the way funds are being used in our counties and whatever money they are collecting themselves. Of course, the county councils used to do better than what is being done today for the simple reason that there is money that is going to people’s pockets and not really working for the people. As a country, we need to stop this pilferage where money is being siphoned. We should even call upon Ethics and Anti- Corruption Commission (EACC) to look into these counties and see what is happening to the money that has been given from the central kitty and whatever is being collected from the counties."
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