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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would like to first of all thank Hon. Murgor for raising that issue. My honest observation, Sen. Murgor, is that if the state security operators wanted to know everything that is happening about cattle rustling, all they need to get is drones. They will see who is stealing the cows, where they are taken and see who the owners. However, they will not. Number two, I heard my brother and senior and wonderful friend, Hon. (Dr.) Khalwale, discussing the matter that Hon. Kavindu has raised. In my past life, I was an Assistant Minister for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Seventy per cent of our young Kenyans who have been arrested in these foreign countries carrying drugs were conned, convinced and they carried those drugs to those countries without some of them even knowing that they were actually carrying those drugs. Some of us have friends whose children are involved in these things. I would like for the Government to be softer and kinder. In other jurisdictions, once people are arrested and they are most probably served a period of even five years, normally caring governments repatriate those prisoners to come and finish their terms in their countries. I believe that is what Sen. Kavindu was actually requesting the Government to do. The reality is that there is this sexual exploitation and, indeed, the young people have been arrested because of the sex trafficking which has taken place in those countries. My colleagues in this House know that many Kenyans went out to look for a living or jobs, but some of them got themselves into these activities. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do believe that as a responsible Government and a people, we can interrogate those matters. The Government has the capacity of looking at all the prisoners arrested in foreign countries. It can look at all the Kenyans who have been arrested in different countries and are stationed there. Some of them have been put in detention camps. I believe that is what Sen. Kavindu was talking about. I think when the committee gets to the point, we will be able to explain some of these things. I believe the Ministry of Foreign Affairs does have records of majority of the Kenyans in some of these prisons out of the country. Thank you."
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"content": " Sen. Abass, please proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Hon. Speaker, Sir. I would like to support the Statement by the Senator for Isiolo County, Sen. Fatuma Dullo. While making budget in the counties, they always take the budget first to the public for public participation. However, immediately after approval, they do a supplementary budget and justify it. The budget is The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only.A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and Audio Services,Senate."
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"content": "actually not based on a need base, but rather at the will of the Governor and his team. That is how the budget making is taking place in these counties There are so many unfinished or stalled projects from since 2013. It is not a priority anymore for the governors. So much money has been spent. Some of the projects are even their offices and assembly offices, yet that is not prioritized. Instead, they always keep on looking for new projects, which is a very unfortunate situation. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Chairperson of the Senate Standing Committee on Finance and Budget, who is also my party leader, is here. We need to have control on these things. Action must be taken. The pending bills are increasing each year because they are not being paid. They are escalating every time. So, the committee should tell Kenyans what this House will do about this escalation of the pending bills. Equally, we will ask the committee to at least follow up this issue and ensure that all projects that are stalled must be finished before the end of this term. I beg to support."
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"content": " Sen. Olekina, please proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to make comments on two Statements. The first Statement is on the insecurity in Samburu County. I listened keenly when I was walking in, and I have also had an opportunity to read the Statement by the distinguished Senator from Samburu County. It shows some form of laxity with our police forces or service. There is absolutely no reason why a chronological event, which is known by the security officers, cannot be acted upon. The distinguished Senator has said that on the 9th of January, 13th of January, 10th of February, 27th of February, 10th of March and even today bandits are going in and killing police officers who are transporting criminals from the law courts, yet nothing is happening. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have seen what the distinguished Senator has requested to be investigated. All these things that you have asked for, are things which will just give you literature for no reason. What we should ask for, is for the Ministry of Interior and National Coordination to take swift action and safeguard the citizens of Samburu County. Mr. Speaker, Sir, if you say “provide a report”, what is the report for, so that we can sit here and read? The Ministry of Interior and National Administration should move swiftly and protect those citizens. You cannot have 10th, 13th and even today, no one is doing anything. The residents of Samburu are citizens of this Republic. They should be protected. In the 21st Century, we cannot be sitting here and talking about insecurity in Baragoi. This is absolutely ridiculous. There is a second statement raised by the distinguished Senator from Kisumu that I want to comment on because of time, otherwise, I would have gone on and on about this issue of insecurity. There is no doubt taxation is necessary. In fact, the Constitution is very clear. Article 201 of the Constitution talks about the principle that shall guide the aspect of public finance in this Republic. One important factor is that the burden of taxation shall be shared fairly. Now, the question is, when you look at Nairobi City County as an example, have land rates been reviewed for a period of time? If we want to provide services to our The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only.A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and Audio Services,Senate."
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"content": "citizens in Kisumu County and all our counties, have we reviewed those taxes on leasehold? We need to encourage and I hope the Committee will also encourage those counties to carry out public participation. People are bleeding, yes, but we have got to find a balance. Mr. Speaker, Sir, 30 seconds, please."
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"content": " Give the hon. Senator the requested 30 seconds."
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"content": "Thank you. In Nairobi City County, it is imperative that we review the leases, the taxes and the land rates, so that we can be fair and balanced. We are talking about Nairobi City County not being able to pay streetlights and yet, this is a security issue. You collect taxes to pay for bills. That is number one. In Kisumu County, the matter is about public participation. We just have to be fair and that is the most important thing. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I hope that the Committee, which will be looking at this issue of this taxation can look at it and become fair. I also hope that the taxes which were levied on the Housing Levy will reduce in this Financial Year to one per cent or even lower than that, so that we can balance."
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"content": " Sen. Essy."
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