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"content": "Hon. Members, press the intervention button. Hon Adan Haji, Member for Mandera West Constituency, do you want to contribute to this debate? Hon. Nyenze, do you want to contribute? I can see that Hon. Members have logged in, but they are not in staying in the chamber. In the absence of further interest in this debate, let the Mover reply. Where is the Mover? Hon. Wamaua, you may reply."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to reply. Allow me to extend my sincere appreciation to all the Members who spoke on this Bill, including those who wanted to contribute, but did not get opportunity or are not in the chamber at this time. There were various key issues that were raised during the debate. First, is the issue of remuneration of board members. There was a suggestion that the Sub-county Education Board (SEB) members should receive allowances akin to other public servants. That is a valid consideration, which can be incorporated through amendment during the Committee of the whole House. Secondly, there is the issue of definition of the SEB. Some Hon. Members, more so Hon. Keynan, sought clarity on whether these boards align with constituency-based structures or administrative sub-county units. According to the County Governments Act, it is evident that these boards are decentralised units of the CEB. Therefore, we should ensure that we align The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "it with the existing Government structures. In case of a different opinion, there will still be a chance to speak to it during the Committee of the whole House. The other issue was the appointment of board members. There is a Member who proposed that we remove the words “competitive process in the nomination”. I agree with this because in many areas, we have specified who are supposed to sit in the board. Therefore, I agree to that proposal. We will refine the Bill during the Committee of the whole House. Hon. Deputy Speaker, the other area of concern is the involvement of Members of Parliament. Their inclusion in the Board seeks to ensure coordination between the National Government Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) and other Government agencies for robust resource allocation. Without MPs’ involvement, there is the risk of duplication or uneven distribution of funds, leading to inefficiencies. If there is need to improve this provision, there will be enough time during the Committee of the whole House for anyone who has an amendment. Another area of concern to Members is on co-option of additional experts. The Bill allows for co-opting of experts when necessary, particularly in specialised areas like Information and Communication Technology (ICT), if required."
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"content": "Hon. Wamaua, allow me to interrupt you to recognise and welcome the students who are here. They might leave before we do so. I recognise the presence of students of Nguku Junior School from Kigumo Constituency, Murang’a County, who are seated in the Public Gallery. I also recognise students from Nairobi Comprehensive School from Dagoretti North Constituency, Nairobi City County, who are also seated in the Public Gallery. Hon. Wamaua, as you continue with your reply, you can welcome them on our behalf."
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I take this opportunity to welcome the students who have come here so that they can see what usually happens in Parliament. Our major work is to make sure that we look at the Government’s businesses. We also legislate and amend existing laws depending on the times that we are in. We encourage you to work hard in school and make sure that you become Members of Parliament or people with integrity in the future."
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"content": "Let us give her two more minutes, so that she can complete her reply."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. The students can emulate us and be the next Members of Parliament. I ask them to work hard in their schools, incorporate a lot of discipline so that they can take this country to greater heights in the future. Hon. Deputy Speaker, as I said, the other area of concern in this Bill is co-option of additional experts when necessary, particularly in specialised areas like ICT. Because we are also dealing with infrastructure, there are other experts like quantity surveyors and architects, who can assist, if we do not have anyone with such expertise in the Board. The other area of concern is staffing of the Sub-County Education Board. The concern was that county governments primarily handle Early Childhood Development Education (ECDE), while basic education falls under the national Government. Therefore, this matter will be refined to ensure a clear delineation of responsibilities without administrative conflicts. Hon. Deputy Speaker, the Basic Education (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.59 of 2023) is timely. It responds to the growing need for greater public involvement in decision making, particularly in education, which is a fundamental national development agenda. By establishing legally recognised Sub-County Education Boards, we will bring decision making closer to the people. This will ensure fair resource allocation, practical governance and responsiveness to local needs. Hon. Members said many things during the debate. I thank the House for its robust debate and support. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "With those remarks, I beg to reply."
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"content": "We shall defer putting of the Question to a later time."
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