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"content": "Hon. Wangari is the last one to contribute. Yeye atafunga hapo. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Gilgil, UDA",
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. This issue recurs because of the mystery surrounding hardship areas. We asked the same questions that we are asking today last term. First, it was difficult to know who does the classification. It was taken to TSC, but we thought it was done by the Ministry of Education. Then, it was taken back to the Ministry of Interior and National Administration. Even knowing the person in charge of it was a problem. That is why you see Members being very jittery because this is an issue that is shrouded in mystery. The ones who benefit do not want the issue to be opened up. You cannot say that Kenya before devolution is the same one that was in the 1960s or 1970s. Some areas were classified as hardship areas at that time, but today, with devolution and development that has gone on, they are no longer hardship areas. The Cabinet Secretary must demystify this mystery. Let us know the parameters that were used, whether they change, and who makes the changes. If you remember, when we were discussing National Police Service housing, it was applied across the country. Some people will look at Gilgil Constituency, and say it is not a hardship area. However, a teacher from Gilgil Town will need two hours or more to get to a school in Gwa Shati or Thugunui. What we need from the Ministry tomorrow are the parameters. Have they changed? More importantly, is there a periodic review and how is it applied, so that we know how you qualify? Teachers move from any area which does not have hardship allowance. Those in the hardship allowance areas even bribe their way to stay there. They stay in one place until they retire because they do not want to be moved from that area. If we do this, we will be dealing with the whole country. We will have a way forward instead of having this issue in every Parliament. We have been talking about it from the Eleventh Parliament. Thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": "Hon. Owen Baya, you have heard all these cries from various Members. From where I sit, it is a question of poor management. When people look for public jobs, be it a teacher or policeman, they say they are ready to work anywhere and everywhere. You are crying that they are running away now. How can somebody run away from his job without authority? It is a question of management. Tell your Cabinet Secretary to come and tell us the criteria of classification of hardship areas. There is a classic case of Hon. Jared Okello. If you know the geography of his area, Ahero is not a hardship area. Nyakach, which is better than Ahero, is classified as a hardship area. That is what he has been telling us here. Muhoroni, which is a settlement and very productive agricultural area, is a hardship area. Ahero which is ravaged by floods every year is not a hardship area. This is the kind of issue that you should deal with. Your Cabinet Secretary will have sufficient time tomorrow to deal with this issue. He will have at least 30 minutes before he goes to the rest of the questions, unless you have another idea to give us."
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"speaker_name": "Kilifi North, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Owen Baya",
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"content": " Thank you very much. I share the sentiments and agree with what has been said. However, I can see two different sides. The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration may not be the right person to deal with this matter, but the Cabinet Secretary for Public Service, Performance and Delivery Management."
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"content": "Is it the Cabinet Secretary for Public Service, Performance and Delivery Management?"
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"speaker_name": "Kilifi North, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Owen Baya",
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"content": " Yes."
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"content": "If it is the Cabinet Secretary for Public Service, Performance and Delivery Management, the designated one is here."
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"speaker_name": "Kilifi North, UDA",
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"content": " We will require him to bring the Report here immediately after he is sworn in."
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"speaker_name": "Nyando, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Jared Okello",
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"content": " On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Hold on, Hon. Owen. There is a point of order from Hon. Jared Okello."
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