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"content": "The truth of the matter is that in-house counsels, not only in the county assemblies, but also in civil service, are completely demotivated, to an extent that they feel even a case that they can execute, whether it falls in their arena of expertise, they think, if we can get external services, why not? Why should I burden myself, yet I am not motivated and remunerated well enough, and the county government is not investing in me by putting in resources and money in terms of learning and development?"
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, that is why I am saying, when I looked at this recommendation, if we had diversity of thoughts outside of legal counsel, yaani, outside of lawyers, some of us would be able to tell you, we have focused on the outsourced services, but the alternative is, of all the seven recommendations, just this one recommendation is looking into how we are going to take care of this in-house counsel that is supposed to take care of all these cases."
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"content": "A county like Nairobi City is sued every single day. How many court cases? God knows. We have heard Sen. Cherarkey saying that even an in-house committee that has The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "been put together to affirm and check which are these pending bills for legal representation is illegal. Sen. Cherarkey is saying that even that is illegal, so, who is supposed to check on which lawyer has been paid, for what representation, and for what submissions? Madam Temporary Speaker, if we had a Standing Order that was going to allow us to redo this thing, I would say that this joint committee first of all should have been disbanded, have the lawyers removed, put one or two lawyers for purposes of legal expertise to tell us what we can or cannot do because under the Law Society of Kenya, abcd--- Madam Temporary Speaker, I have seen my light is on and I am 100 per cent sure that my time was not safeguarded. I do not know if you can rule on that."
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"content": " Sen. Gloria, you know that when points of order are raised, it is based on what you are submitting on the Floor of the House. It is based on those submissions that objections will be made. So, ideally, what you should do when you take up the Floor is utilise your time well and stay within the Standing Orders. So, proceed with the yellow light on."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, let me summarise by saying that maize cannot receive justice in the chickens' courts. The lawyers should have never been involved. I do not support this Report."
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"content": " Sen. Gloria, I want to assure you that the point of orders took about three minutes, and your time was frozen on those points of orders. Proceed."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, let me just summarise by informing Kenyans especially Mr. Laban that--- Mr. Laban, I am sorry that your Petition landed in a joint committee that was largely based on a representation of lawyers. I do not support this Report."
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"content": " What was your point of order, Sen. Kinyua? Sen. Gloria, resume your seat. Your time will be frozen on that."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I just wanted to be guided on an issue. I am listening to Sen. Gloria, and she is making a lot of points. I want you to guide us on this Report. Are we going to amend anything or once the Report is written or tabled by the two committees the way it was tabled---"
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