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"speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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"content": " Hon. Senators, today being a Wednesday, morning session, we have Cabinet Secretaries coming to respond to questions by Senators. This morning we were expecting three Cabinet Secretaries. However, I am told we only have two who are ready to engage the Senate. We have the Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Forestry whom I am told is in the precincts of Parliament ready to answer the Question by Sen. (Dr.) Murango, the Senator for Kirinyaga County. We were also expecting the Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury and Economic Planning to engage the Senate. However, I am now seized of a letter from him that he will not be able to attend because he had some engagements he had scheduled. We are also expecting the Cabinet Secretary for Roads and Transport. I understand he is also ready to engage the Senate this morning. That is the position. We will be engaging the two Cabinet Secretaries. Clerk, is the Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Forestry ready?"
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"content": "[The Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Forestry (Hon. (Dr.) Barasa) was ushered into the Chamber]"
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"content": "There are Senators who want to make comments on my communication. Sen. Maanzo, proceed."
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"content": "Sorry, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I just want to confirm whether the Cabinet Secretary in charge of Roads and Transport is available. I can also see that Sen. (Dr.) Murango is not here. Is there a possibility of interchanging the Cabinet Secretary, so that he comes when Sen. (Dr.) Murango is present? You cannot ask a Cabinet Secretary a question when the Senator is not available."
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"content": " No---"
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"legal_name": "Maanzo Daniel Kitonga",
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"content": "Or maybe he had sent somebody to ask the Question on his behalf- --"
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"content": " You know Sen. (Dr.) Murango is very organised. He has assigned Sen. Wakili Sigei to ask the Question on his behalf."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Kindly confirm whether the Cabinet Secretary in charge of Roads and Transport is also available."
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"content": " You should be listening to the Chair when I am communicating. Had you been attentive, you would know that I addressed the matter about the three Cabinet Secretaries. I said the Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Forestry is within the building ready to engage the Senate. The Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury and Economic Planning is not available. The Cabinet Secretary in charge of Roads and Transport is available. Sen. Sifuna, proceed. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I think we had agreed on certain basic rules of the quorum when Cabinet Secretaries are asking for an adjournment of their appearance. First, I did not hear you giving the reason why the Cabinet Secretary for National Treasury and Economic Planning is not coming in the letter that you have referenced. Did I hear you correctly saying that the letter came in this morning? Indeed, we had set certain rules that if a Cabinet Secretary is unable to come, he needs to communicate earlier and not on the day of the sitting. Secondly, they have to state proper reasons for their absence because this is also an important exercise. He cannot just say he is not available. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, kindly clarify for me those two issues."
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