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"content": "Yes, on the grazing plans. She acknowledged that they exist. She equally acknowledged that rangers also exist, but did not give an answer or even sought for a specific timeline within which she can do that."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr.) Deborah Barasa): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we kindly request that you give us seven days to have a comprehensive report to share with you on what we are doing to address the concern."
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"content": " From the Chair, as you do that, also give this House the role of the Consortium of African Funds for the Environment (CAFÉ) in forest conservation and management. What is their role? It is in the Forest Management Act, 2016. The question with regards to Chepalungu Forest comes from the forest management and grazing rights to access the forest by the communities. The grazing is not well coordinated. It is in law that the community should be able to access forest through the CAFÉ. So, in seven days, give us a comprehensive statement or response to that effect."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr.) Deborah Barasa): Thank you."
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"content": " Sen. Wakili, are you comfortable now?"
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"content": "(Sen. Wakili spoke off record)"
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Yes, Chepalungu Forest is a case study, as well as the forest in Kirinyaga County. Hon. Senators, you have a chance to ask only one supplementary question. Sen. Paul Karungo Thang’wa, please proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. My question is close to what Sen. Sigei on behalf of Sen. (Dr.) Murango asked about the illegal logging. It is happening in Karura Forest, on Kiambu Road near the Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI). It is also happening in Thogoto Forest. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, when the KFS was asked about this illegal logging in January, 2025, they assured the public that the ongoing activities are part of the well- planned forest management. They also assured that they will plant trees between March and May. We are now in April, yet, there is no planting of trees in Thogoto and Karura forests. It is not happening. The illegal logging is continuing at an alarming rate. They are saying they are cutting trees for domestic fuel. If, indeed, you are logging for domestic fuel, you are supposed to give the wood, timber and the tree trunks to the neighbours. However, we see big trucks taking these logs away. So, can she clarify what is happening?"
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"content": " Let me get a few more questions because they might be related in one way or the other. Prof. Tom Ojienda, the Senator for Kisumu County, please, proceed. Sorry he is not in the Chamber. Sen. Onyonka Richard, please, proceed."
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