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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I do not know whether the Cabinet Secretary and the team that she is with are aware that if you go to roughly seven counties of western Kenya, namely, Trans Nzoia, Kakamega, Siaya, Kisii and Homa Bay and Bomet County could also be included, there is a Chinese company that is cutting trees indiscriminately, packaging them into trucks and shipping them off to China. I remember the President once came to Kisii County and said we do not want to be exporting raw materials. That if there is anything to be done, let it be processed on site, so that there is value addition, so that we can employ our people and be responsible. I do not know whether she is aware of this. If she is, what is the strategy and plan? Nobody knows the company and the Chinese individuals who are cutting these trees are and who they represent. Nobody has ever told us the purpose of the cutting of those trees indiscriminately. Even in Meru County, historically, once trees are cut, they have to be replanted. There is no strategy for replanting of trees or any other fauna and flora which is being destroyed. Finally, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, when these trees are being cut, they are causing an environmental hazard because they leave all the offcuts and the materials on site and move out, going to the other side. I would like the Minister to help, so that we can understand what is going on. Thank you."
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"content": " Let us get the last one, this round from Sen. Mungatana Danson."
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"content": "Thank you, Waziri, for visiting us in Tana River County in your previous capacity. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the question I have is about data. On 22nd December, 2022, an initiative was launched in the Ministry of Environment, Climate Change and Forestry, led by none other than His Excellency the President. This initiative was very good because we are supposed to be planting 15 billion trees between 2022 and 2032. That means every year, we are supposed to be doing 1.5 billion trees. So, this being 2025, we are supposed to have done 4.5 billion from 2022. I would like to know how many trees have been planted in the County of Tana River and generally, in Kenya? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, when you look at the Social Health Authority (SHA) in the Ministry of Health, where our Cabinet Secretary served before, there is a data platform. So, every single day in real time, any Kenyan can enter that data and know how many people have registered every single day. I would like to know how many trees have been planted. If this is not being done, how sure are we of the numbers that you are announcing here? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, can we have a plan of data collection, so that we speak with seriousness on this matter? It is a generational issue, and we would like to know whether the Minister is keeping that data. What happened to that initiative? I thank you."
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"content": " Hon. Senators, as you have realized, the last three questions were not related to what the Cabinet Secretary came to answer. However, she has heard your questions. From where she sits, it might not be possible to give the data or the information on all the questions. Perhaps there are some questions that she can answer right away. However, there are others which need accurate data of how many trees have been planted, so far, she cannot maybe use her phone to give you that data now. So, as we ask these questions, let us be also alive that she might not be having answers to them right away. I am giving you some leeway at least to ask your questions because the Cabinet Secretary is representing the country in the Ministry. At least, she can note some of the questions and give commitment. She did so well with the other issue on Chepalungu Forest in Bomet County. She gave a commitment of seven days to give the plans that they have on the grazing in the forest. Hon. Members, as you ask do not expect answers now. I am not defending her, but remember, our Standing Order says you ask a question which is related to the primary Question. However, I am giving you that leeway at least to ask questions which are relevant in the forest management. Hon. CS, please, answer those three questions first."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr.) Deborah Barasa): Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. As I said, we would like to share with you a detailed and comprehensive report regarding tree planting. That way, we can all be on the same page moving forward, where we are as a country in terms of achieving our 15 billion tree plantations. So, we assure you that we have the Jaza Miti application, which is data driven where we are monitoring. Currently, we have 783 million trees planted, 652 have already been incorporated into this application and 131 have been manually collected. In the application, we are The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "monitoring the growth to ensure that these trees are thriving and viable. So, we will be able to share with you the comprehensive report per county. We have had several discussions that every month, every county should have a report on how many trees they have been able to plant vis-a-vis what has been targeted. I can assure you that this comprehensive report will be shared within seven days. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, there is no illegal logging. That I can assure you and tree planting is ongoing. This has been stopped. The concerns with the Chinese company were happening, but that has been stopped. We can even share the letters showing evidence that none of that is going on at the moment. I believe this comprehensive report will cover that to give you tangible evidence of the number of trees we have and even the Geo-mapping of where the trees are. We are even able to show the coverage all over the country as the years progress and where we will be. Mr Deputy Speaker, Sir, we kindly request to share a comprehensive report with tangible evidence and assure Members that we will be sharing monthly reports, so that they can be informed on what is going on in matters of tree planting within the country."
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"content": " Hon. Cabinet Secretary, did you touch on what is happening in Karura Forest?"
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr.) Deborah Barasa): Mr, Deputy Speaker, Sir, there is no illegal logging in Karura Forest. We can even have a tour together and also meet with the communities around, discuss and engage with them so that you can be fully informed that none of that is going on there."
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"content": " Sen. Thang’wa, you have been invited to that trip to Karura Forest to go and assess what is happening there."
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