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                "legal_name": "Sifuna Edwin Watenya",
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            "content": "Why am I being heckled by people from Uasin Gishu? When it comes to forests in Elburgon or wherever it is, you can ask your question. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the reason my brother from Kiambu County and I are concerned is that Karura Forest is at the heart of the people of Nairobi and Kiambu counties. So, what is the communication policy? Do you wait until Twitter tells us that there is logging going on in Karura Forest before you give a statement? Why can you not tell us early? These trees do not mature overnight. I am sure the Forest Department knows how long it takes a tree to mature and when it will be due for harvesting. Why can you not tell us in advance instead of waiting for Twitter to tell us that trees are being felled and then you come and say, “oh, that is us.”"
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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                "legal_name": "Murungi Kathuri",
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            "content": " That question is not different from what was asked by Sen. Thang’wa. Sen. Kinyua, you can proceed so that she can answer your question together with those of several other Members at a go."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kinyua",
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                "legal_name": "John Kinyua Nderitu",
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            "content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Is this tree planting a public relations exercise or are we committed to it? In Laikipia County, for example, at a place called Kauka, the then Cabinet Secretary, Hon. Njeru, planted trees. However, as I speak now, there is no single tree at that place because the elephants went there and destroyed everything. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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            "content": "This year, again, the governor was there, together with the Principal Secretary and they planted trees. Is it a public relations exercise to plant trees? Also, when we talk about planting trees, how many have we planted? It is not even how many trees we have planted. It is how many have survived? Every time we talk about planting trees, but we do not know how many have survived. Every time, we are told trees are planted and there is a day set for planting trees. Is it planting trees, or is it the number of trees that have survived?"
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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            "content": " What you are asking is, are we planting trees or growing trees? If you grow trees, you must tend the seedlings from the onset until maturity. So maybe your question is: Are we growing trees or planting? You can plant and grow. In the case of growing, your eyes must be there full time so that you can nurture them. Sen. Fatuma Dullo, you may proceed."
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                "legal_name": "Dullo Fatuma Adan",
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            "content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir and Waziri . My question is on the Mathenge. I hope Waziri understands what Mathenge is. Previously, Mathenge was introduced more specifically to Northern Kenya to control desertification. However, this plant is causing a lot of havoc in many parts of Northern Kenya. I have repeated this question even in the last Senate because the communities living in those areas are even unable to graze their animals because of the Mathenge. Secondly, the communities have requested the Ministry of Environment, Climate Change and Forestry to allow them to burn charcoal from those plants so that at least they can control the Mathenge from growing."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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                "legal_name": "Murungi Kathuri",
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            "content": " Sen. Dullo, the Senator for Nyeri County is wondering whether you are referring to him or who you are referring to. Is it Sen. Mathenge, the Senator for Nyeri County, or is it the Mathenge tree?"
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                "legal_name": "Dullo Fatuma Adan",
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            "content": "No, no. I am referring to the Mathenge plant; what is called"
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            "content": "Prosopolis"
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