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            "speaker_name": "The Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Forestry",
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            "content": "(Hon. (Dr.) Deborah Barasa): Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. What we stated is that the area is protected, though it is not fully fenced. Rangers are stationed around the area. Additionally, we will share a comprehensive report that includes details on coverage, supported by pictorial evidence. This approach will ensure that the coverage requirements for our country are achieved."
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            "content": "On a point of information, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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                "legal_name": "Murungi Kathuri",
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            "content": " Who do you want to inform? The Cabinet Secretary?"
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Mandago",
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            "content": "I want to inform Sen. Kinyua that protection is not necessarily an electric fence."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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            "content": " He has declined the information you have. Sen. Wamatinga Wahome, proceed."
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                "legal_name": "Wahome Wamatinga",
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            "content": "Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity. Let me start by commending the Cabinet Secretary for the commendable work she has accomplished in the short time she has been in the Ministry. She is performing quite well. That said, I recognize that the Cabinet Secretary might not yet have fully internalized all the operations. However, I wish to raise an issue that we have been discussing in this House and the country at large. It is also a global concern that we believe we, as a nation, can leverage. Coming from a country situated between two water towers, our efforts to achieve comprehensive forest cover has been quite elaborate. Therefore, I would like the Cabinet Secretary to elaborate on a matter that revolves around the incentives we are striving to leverage, specifically the issue of carbon credits. As you are aware, this House has passed laws aimed at operationalizing this initiative. Our vision has been to engage the youth and mainstream the younger The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Wamatinga",
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            "content": "generation in afforestation efforts across the country. In doing so, we were promising them that carbon credits would be a take home for their participation. Could the Cabinet Secretary explain her plan for implementing and operationalizing this initiative to ensure that this great benefit is not lost to our youth, whom we must mainstream in conserving our ecosystem? Thank you."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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                "legal_name": "Murungi Kathuri",
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            "content": " Sen. Ososti, proceed."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Osotsi",
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                "legal_name": "Osotsi Godfrey Otieno",
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            "content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Before I ask my question, allow me to thank the Cabinet Secretary for attending, although she has been in the Ministry for a short time. She appears to be a quick learner. That said, I would like to inquire from the Cabinet Secretary about the Ministry's policy on sawmilling in the forests. In my county, specifically in Kibiri Forest, which is part of the larger Kakamega Forest, the local community actively participates in growing trees and taking care of the forest. However, when it comes to sawmilling and harvesting the trees, they do not involve the community. Contractors and sawmillers are brought in from other counties. This practice disregards the efforts of the local community who have invested time and resources into forest conservation, yet are sidelined during harvesting. What is the policy on sawmilling and involvement of the local community? I have raised this matter in this House on two prior occasions, and each time, I have been assured action would be taken. However, the situation remains the same. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to know from the Cabinet Secretary the steps they are taking. This question does not need her to go and research because it is a matter that has come here twice. What steps are they taking to ensure that the community is fully involved, not just in the growing, but also harvesting of trees when they are ready?"
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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                "legal_name": "Murungi Kathuri",
                "slug": "murungi-kathuri"
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            "content": " Next is Sen. Mariam Sheikh Omar."
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