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            "content": "(Hon. (Dr.) Deborah Barasa): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for tendering, normally all those who are prequalified are the ones who receive licenses. The concern there is that perhaps they did not pass the prequalification stage. Maybe we will discuss that further with our team here to identify challenges they had when they were tendering."
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            "content": " Madam Cabinet Secretary, I advise that you task the county conservator to engage the community, so that they understand what happens. I believe there is a county forest officer or conservator stationed in the county. Please organise in a way that the conservator can address those issues in Vihiga and any other county that needs sensitisation. Hon. Senators, we have come to the conclusion of that Question."
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            "content": "On a point of order."
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            "content": " Your issue was not addressed? Was it very technical?"
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            "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I asked about the Government policy on logging on private forests. I did not hear the feedback from the Cabinet Secretary. Thank you."
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            "content": "The Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Forestry"
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            "content": "(Hon. (Dr.) Deborah Barasa): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the regulations are underway. They are undergoing public participation to strengthen the private forests currently. There are also harvesting rules which provides a procedure for them to monitor the forests. The KFS and the county are working together to ensure that there is compliance for the forests. So, maybe you wait. We will also share a report within seven days, giving you a comprehensive report on what we are doing for the private forests. At a bird's eye The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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            "content": "view, the regulations are undergoing public participation. We have also rules and procedures in place. The KFS and county are also compliant to the very same rules."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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            "content": " Proceed, Sen. Wambua in less than one minute. What is your comment on logging?"
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            "content": "I thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for indulging me. Mine is just to provide some information to the Cabinet Secretary about this rampant logging that is taking place across the country. Last weekend, I was in Kitui, a ward called Tharaka. These are Kenya Power (KP) people restoring power lines. The level of tree felling was enormous. In fact, if proper investigation is carried out, it may as well produce the results. Kenya Power is doing very serious damage to our forests. They are cutting down trees that have been there for hundreds of years, simply just to provide wayleave for power lines. This morning, I have come from Nakuru. I witnessed the same felling of trees that clearly are not less than 50 to 60 years old. The Ministry has to do something about logging, both in public and even in private forests. Otherwise, we will convert this country into a desert."
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