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"speaker_name": "Suna East, ODM",
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "I am happy the Leader of the Majority Party has arrived. We are supposed to pass the Finance Bill by 30th June. It can come on 26th, 25th, or 1st of June. As of today, the public is being fed with lies that there is taxation on trees and oxygen. There is no Finance Bill in this House. Hon. Speaker, I do not think we have seen any clause of any Finance Bill with your approval before this House. In conclusion, we as a House have the interest of the public to protect and legislations to do. Let us desist from commenting in a manner that we think we are helping the Executive when we are destroying Parliament. Parliament has the final say on any legislation. Let the Executive bring what it wants to bring. It can even say it wants to tax mountains. It is us who will deny them that right."
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"content": "In conclusion, I am not sure whether what I saw yesterday is factual. The Chairman is here. He can agree with us. This is what we suffered last time. We as a House ended up withdrawing all offensive clauses of the last Finance Bill through the leadership of the Leader of the Majority Party, but the lies went ahead of us. People were invading Parliament by the time the truth arrived. This time round, we want to do things in a manner that is in tandem with what the House of Parliament is expected by engaging the public. We do not expect any taxation at all. Why should Kenyans be taxed more than this? I do not want to name the people who are propagating lies and confusing Kenyans. I know some senior members of the society are lying to Kenyans that there is a Finance Bill. There is no Finance Bill before this House. Thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": "Yes, Leader of the Majority Party. Hold your horses."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me first thank the Leader of the Minority Party for raising this issue. Indeed, I had a discussion with the Leader of the Minority Party over this issue on WhatsApp very late last night, at about 1.45 a.m. That was when I saw his text and noticed that he had not slept. We were worried that the same thing that happened last year is likely to happen this year if we do not stem it in the bud as early as now. As the Leader of the Minority Party has said, it is true that there are people who are propagating the lie that there is already a Finance Bill with all manner of taxes in the House. There is a saying where I come from. It goes: “ Ûta kanywîrîirî ndûî kîrita.”"
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"content": "Its direct translation in English says: “He who wears the shoe knows where it pinches the most.” It is the Members of this House who can tell you where it pinches the most when we allow disinformation, misinformation and propaganda to take root. It is sad, as the Leader of the Minority Party has said. The people who ought to know better are propagating those lies. Some have even served in this House as Members of Parliament. You will see them all over the media alleging all manner of taxation that is not before the House. I do not know whether they work in the National Treasury to know what it is going to bring here. The National Treasury is even yet to table the estimates for the next financial year, which will then inform what needs to be financed. A Finance Bill is a consequence of what is to be expended by the Government. Then, the Government decides how it intends to raise The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "revenue. That is why it is a statement on revenue-raising measures that the Cabinet Secretary comes to read at the beginning of June. This is just to implore Kenyans that one, not to believe the lies and; two, to fact-check. Last year, 2024, Kenyans were fed with all manner of disinformation and falsehoods on what was contained in the Finance Bill. A week or two before the consideration of that Bill in this House, none other than the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning informed the country of all the retinue of amendments that were being proposed to deal with the few offensive clauses that were in the Finance Bill. Kenyans considered things like taxation on bread offensive. You remember the taxation of motor vehicles. All those things were removed but Kenyans ended up saying: “Reject! Do not amend!” Hon. Speaker, we have no business having a Parliament in this country if this House is told to reject every law and not to amend it. The legislative process begins with legislative proposals, which are then amended as informed by Kenyans during public participation. I do not need to belabour what happened last year. We need not go back to that pain. But we must inform Kenyans that we are in an era of disinformation and misinformation, especially on social media. Unfortunately, many members of the Fourth Estate pick up and report what is being said on social media, which are lies, as if it is the truth. The Fourth Estate has a greater responsibility, more than anybody else, to inform Kenyans truthfully. What we say on this Floor is on record. If we lie, even 100 years from today, Kenyans will know whether Hon. Junet or I lied. When Hon. Junet says there is no Finance Bill, there is none as we speak. When a Finance Bill is proposed and brought before the House, it will not be a secret. It will be published. I thank the Office of the Clerk for a job well done during the consideration of the Tax Laws (Amendment) Bill last year. After the fall of the Finance Bill, we passed two Business Laws (Amendment) Bills, 2024, the Tax Procedures (Amendment) Bill, 2024 and the Tax Laws (Amendment) Bill, 2024. Before we considered the Bills, we allowed the National Treasury to first inform Kenyans of what they intended to do and get their views. We then conducted elaborate public participation through the leadership of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, under the leadership of the Chairman, Hon. Kimani Kuria. Eventually, we passed those laws on 4th December 2024 without any incidents. I have said before that those four pieces of legislation were 70 per cent what was contained in the Finance Bill, 2024 and yet, they were passed without any incidents. Therefore, if the Finance Bill, 2024 was as offensive as said by those who propagated the disinformation campaign, then the four laws would be hurting Kenyans today. They are not."
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