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"speaker_name": "Mr Julius Migos Ogamba",
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"content": " Thank you for inviting me, Hon. Speaker. I request to respond to the three questions as follows: The Higher Education Loans Board (HELB) currently funds students in universities and Technical and Vocational Education and Training (TVET) institutions under the Ministry of Education. HELB is able to fund those students because it is provided with a budget to do so through the Ministry of Education. The Kenya Medical Training College (KMTC) is under the Ministry of Health. HELB is ready and available to provide funding to students in KMTC once it is supported with the necessary budget by this House, through the Ministry of Health. Indeed, when resources were availed to HELB, it provided support to KMTC students. This happened in the Financial Year 2013/2014 when there was a partnership with United States Agency for International Development (USAID), and in the Financial Year 2022/2023 when the Ministry of Health provided resources to HELB. May I assure the House, therefore, that HELB is committed to supporting all eligible college and university students in pursuit of their tertiary education without any discrimination. We look forward to working with this honourable House to explore the possibilities of enhancing funding to cover institutions in our tertiary education space that are yet to be covered. Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I submit."
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"content": "Thank you. Are you satisfied?"
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"speaker_name": "Balambala, JP",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Abdi Shurie",
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"content": " No. I am not satisfied."
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"content": "Go ahead."
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"content": " In my view, what has been put in the HELB kitty should cater for all students, irrespective of the ministries that the institutions fall under. To be very honest, saying that the budget should be enhanced in order to give the KMTC students support does not make sense. In my view, the kitty should cater for all students irrespective of the institutions they are studying at. Thank you. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose?"
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"speaker_name": "Endebess, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I thank the CS for the response. However, the response is unsatisfactory. Since KUCCPS took over the admission of KMTC students, why should they be excluded from accessing HELB through the normal education budget that is allocated to it? Why should they be asked to get a budget within the Ministry of Health? Why should that happen? Students in Technical Training Institutes (TTIs) or those who are doing diploma courses all access HELB. So, why should the KMTC students who are admitted through the same KUCCPS portal, be excluded?"
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"content": "Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal."
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"speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I think the answer is actually inadequate. Why is it that the Ministry of Health had to provide money to HELB so that the students could receive funding and yet, no one gives money for students in other colleges? Similarly, why did KMTC students need to get money from USAID to support them? Furthermore, how is that linked to the Kenya Universities and Colleges Central Placement Service (KUCCPS)? There is a legal issue regarding whether students at KMTC should be admitted through KUCCPS or directly through KMTC. That is related to this denial. I think we are not getting the full information that we require on this matter, which is also linked to the Commission for University Education. The legal issue arises because the Commission for University Education has demanded that KUCCPS also admit KMTC students. We need to know more about this."
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"content": "Sir, it is very simple. KMTC students are students like any other. HELB resources are public resources that are appropriated by this House. Can you take steps to ensure that KMTC students also access HELB financial facilities?"
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